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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Appeal Tribunal hearing Thread 19

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ickky · 26/09/2022 17:24

Allison Bailey has tweeted her intention to appeal the Stonewall decision.

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1572133035335716865

The Tribunal started on 25th April, witness testimony concluded on the 26th May. Closing arguments for council was on the 20th June.

There was also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/allison-bailey-vs-stonewall-and-garden

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC )
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = Judge Goodman, Mr M. Reuby and Ms Darmas

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

Closing arguments for AB, GCC, and SW (20 June)

Allison Bailey's Witness Statement

allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Witness-Statement-of-Allison-Bailey.pdf
Supplementary Statement
allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/C-Supplementary-Witness-Statement.pdf
Closing Statement
allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/CLOSING-SUBMISSIONS-FINAL.pdf

The Reserved Judgement (forth one down)

www.gov.uk/employment-tribunal-decisions/ms-a-bailey-v-stonewall-equality-ltd-and-others-2202172-slash-2020

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WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 26/09/2022 17:57

Thank you @ickky!

Redshoeblueshoe · 26/09/2022 22:27

Thanks ickky

SpinCityBlue · 26/09/2022 23:30

Thanks, @ickky

I see Allison has posted on Twitter about the Labour Party Conference's and Keir Starmer's unforgiveable position. Anyway that's not directly relevant to the subject of this thread; but sometimes I don't know how she keeps going.

Pyjamagame · 27/09/2022 07:27

checking in.

Cuck00soup · 27/09/2022 22:08

Thank You 🙏

Datun · 28/09/2022 10:38

Checking in. Thank you ickky.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 30/09/2022 12:49

SpinCityBlue · 26/09/2022 23:30

Thanks, @ickky

What are the Labour Party doing?

This is bad enough to be deeply depressing.
The report (by Aljazeera) about shady goings on between the party and its parlimentary figures is also disturbing.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 11/10/2022 15:41

Checking in, thanks ickky

PicturesOfDogs · 11/10/2022 22:58

I was thinking about this earlier today, one of the arguments mermaids made was that LGBA had said that they shouldn’t be funded by the lottery.
Now the lottery has actually frozen funding, will that have some kind of bearing on the case?

Seems like a shit argument now.?!?

PicturesOfDogs · 11/10/2022 22:58

Sorry, wrong thread, was supposed to be on mermaids vs LGBA!

Imnobody4 · 13/10/2022 19:03

Just heard about this from Twitter. Stonewall have recently added this disclaimer to their website possibly in June.

• STONEWALL IS PROUD TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE ON LGBTQ+ INCLUSION; WORKING TOWARDS A WORLD WHERE WE'RE ALL FREE TO BE. THIS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL ADVICE, AND IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A SUBSTITUTE FOR LEGAL COUNSEL ON ANY SUBJECT MATTER.

Been consulting lawyers do you think?

ValancyRedfern · 13/10/2022 19:07

We had training from Stonewall in Septmeber (school) they were at great pains to tell us thy don't provide legal advice. Funny that!

Imnobody4 · 13/10/2022 19:25

Interesting - so Mermaids know nothing about medicine and Stonewall know nothing about the law. Sounds about right.

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ickky · 09/11/2023 13:02

A new update from AB

https://allisonbailey.co.uk/updates/update-11/

Update #11 - Yet Another Judgment Against Garden Court Chambers — Allison Bailey

On 3 November 2023, the Tribunal published its latest judgment in my case. This is the second costs judgment published since I won my case in August 2022. The original costs judgment ordered Garden Court Chambers to pay me £20,000 in costs as a consequ...

https://allisonbailey.co.uk/updates/update-11

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ickky · 09/11/2023 13:04

Link to the latest judgement

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/654233e89e05fd0014be7b21/Allison_Bailey__vs_Stonewall_Equality_Limited.pdf

No order was made for Allison Bailey to pay any costs to GCC or Stonewall. 😁

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/654233e89e05fd0014be7b21/Allison_Bailey__vs_Stonewall_Equality_Limited.pdf

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ickky · 09/11/2023 13:06

Also for those that don't want to read it all, but love BC.

Although the case against Garden Court Chambers has now concluded, the litigation against Stonewall continues. My appeal against them is to be heard on 13 and 14 May 2024 at the Employment Appeal Tribunal. Ben Cooper KC is again instructed, and I will update you all closer to the hearing on progress.

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itsmylife7 · 09/11/2023 15:34

Amazing Woman Alison.

PoshCoffee · 18/04/2024 09:39

Although the case against Garden Court has now concluded, the litigation against Stonewall continues. My appeal against them is to be heard on 13 and 14 May 2024 at the Employment Appeal Tribunal. Ben Cooper KC is again instructed

Just a reminder this is coming up. <clears diary for BC and his support wren>
If anyone knows how to apply for remote hearing, please post details.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/04/2024 10:24

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/04/2024 10:35

Wow! Her last case threw up some spectacularly "unique" witnesses with a range of unreliable evidence and a cast of support dogs, mums, helpers etc 😂

Cailleach1 · 18/04/2024 10:37

Ben and his little wren. A thing of beauty. Be still my beating heart.

DewinDwl · 18/04/2024 10:47

Placemarking.

ResisterRex · 18/04/2024 11:29

Soontobe60 · 18/04/2024 11:32

I hope they get the proverbial book thrown at them!

Keeprejoining · 18/04/2024 11:33

If there was ever a reason to start televising court cases Allison Bailey is the reason. Who would have thought employment tribunals could be so gripping and important to us all.
Well done Allison for sticking with it.

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