Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 16

[ickky]

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Thread 13 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556235-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-13

Thread 14 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556407-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-14

Thread 15 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556803-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-15

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

To Come

Closing arguments for AB, GCC, and SW (20 June)

[GrumpyMenopausalWombWielder]

👍

[chilling19]

Thanks ickky- you have been brilliant. 👏👏👏

[IdisagreeMrHochhauser]

Yay ickky

[Boiledbeetle]

hurry up AH I'm dying for a pee.

thanks for the new one @ickky

[EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn]

Thanks @ickky!

[Mmmnotsure]

Thank you, ickky, for enabling this.

[ickky]

Why the fuck would AB seek out any support from anyone at GCC? They had clearly been hostile.

[nauticant]

For Gabcsika:

A strike-out application is an attempt to kill a court case before it has properly started.

Privileged documents are those that according to court rules don't have to be disclosed to the other side in litigation.

Waiving the privilege means the documents can then be disclosed to the other side in litigation.

Withholding the documents until the strike-out application has failed means that you tried to disadvantage the other side for a quick win but once that failed you start playing by the legal rules.

[WallaceinAnderland]

What is the relevance of the Mumsnet link to WPUK meeting chaired by AB?

[chilling19]

6 minutes left. It is like watching England play.

[Appalonia]

Time for support wine yet?!

[ickky]

Is AH trying to imply that AB was not that upset as she sought no solace from GCC?

[LipbalmOrKnickers]

Thanks @ickky , I was still in the old one!

[chilling19]

@Appalonia

Time for support wine yet?!

Yes, just waiting for it to arrive 🍷

[FacebookPhotos]

Time for support wine yet?!

I'm not supposed to be drinking mid-week, but I am regretting that decision after listening today!

[tabbycatstripy]

Nearly done...

[NancyDrawed]

Thanks ickky


And I was just too late to quote TheClitterati's last post on the last thread, but I enjoyed reading it!

[LipbalmOrKnickers]

@chilling19

6 minutes left. It is like watching England play.

I see what you did there 👌

[WallaceinAnderland]

Thanks @ickky

[Boiledbeetle]

i don't drink, but even I want wine/gin/vodka all three!! after this

[chilling19]

We are done!!!

[tabbycatstripy]

Done!

[IDidntKnowItWasAParty]

Time for support wine yet?!

I've run out! need to go to the shop arghhh!

[LipbalmOrKnickers]

Massive grin from Ben, not bloody surprised!

[TheBiologyStupid]

@nauticant

For Gabcsika:

A strike-out application is an attempt to kill a court case before it has properly started.

Privileged documents are those that according to court rules don't have to be disclosed to the other side in litigation.

Waiving the privilege means the documents can then be disclosed to the other side in litigation.

Withholding the documents until the strike-out application has failed means that you tried to disadvantage the other side for a quick win but once that failed you start playing by the legal rules.

Yes, basically GC(C) tried to withhold documents important to Allison's case on the basis of legal privilege and then to get her case struck our because she had insufficient evidence. They lost and then had to hand over the documents, showing that Allison's case was stronger than ever.

They were clearly wrong to withhold the documents in the first place, which is what Ben was driving at.