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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 15

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ickky · 26/05/2022 09:23

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhause

r QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC (teehee)
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Thread 13 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556235-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-13

Thread 14 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556407-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-14

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

To come:

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Boiledbeetle · 26/05/2022 16:07

this has shown it was so simple. gender ideology = good gender Critical = bad. Chambers are good Allison is bad. we must protect our reputation, Allison is now the unworthy class we can do what we like to get her out/admonished whatever

Zeugma · 26/05/2022 16:07

Did anyone ever talk to anyone else at GCC? You wouldn’t think so, the way she's going on.

TopKnotch · 26/05/2022 16:07

A reply all email was not a big deal....

That's not what MW and MB say. For them it was a reason to be furious and take action. They said so themselves

TheBiologyStupid · 26/05/2022 16:08

Onto the subject access request - BC pretty close to winding up his questions.

TheElementsSong · 26/05/2022 16:08

Schrödinger's Hierarchy.

Mmmnotsure · 26/05/2022 16:08

SH: Two senior members supported AH. One of them is one of the most senior and well respected members of chambers.

All animals are equal but
We are in Animal Farm in the middle of 1984.

Mollyollydolly · 26/05/2022 16:08

Funny how they're all equal yet the thought of talking to Mr Cook about it, produces an answer like Lady Bellamy talking to Ruby the housemaid.

TheBiologyStupid · 26/05/2022 16:08

TopKnotch · 26/05/2022 16:07

A reply all email was not a big deal....

That's not what MW and MB say. For them it was a reason to be furious and take action. They said so themselves

Indeed!

Pyjamagame · 26/05/2022 16:08

ifIwerenotanandroid · 26/05/2022 16:07

I'm now channelling Mr Cook AND PJgame

😂

Ithinkitsadoughnut · 26/05/2022 16:09

This case is getting a lot of interest. From TT Twitter:
The twitter reach for our coverage of Allison Bailey v Stonewall and Garden Court Chambers has now passed...

31 MILLION!

Great work by a team dedicated to #OpenJustice and HUGE thanks to all our followers and supporters.

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 26/05/2022 16:09

Mmmnotsure · 26/05/2022 16:08

SH: Two senior members supported AH. One of them is one of the most senior and well respected members of chambers.

All animals are equal but
We are in Animal Farm in the middle of 1984.

Has Ben called her on that?

FacebookPhotos · 26/05/2022 16:10

TheElementsSong · 26/05/2022 16:08

Schrödinger's Hierarchy.

😂

SidewaysOtter · 26/05/2022 16:10

TheBiologyStupid · 26/05/2022 15:56

Why was SH interfering in wording of the MS report after recusing herself from investigating. Great question Ben!

I had to zone out for a minute for work purposes and missed this bit - what was her answer?

TheBiologyStupid · 26/05/2022 16:10

SH trying to justify denying the subject access request.

ickky · 26/05/2022 16:11

Ithinkitsadoughnut · 26/05/2022 16:09

This case is getting a lot of interest. From TT Twitter:
The twitter reach for our coverage of Allison Bailey v Stonewall and Garden Court Chambers has now passed...

31 MILLION!

Great work by a team dedicated to #OpenJustice and HUGE thanks to all our followers and supporters.

Fantastic from 42 tweets to 31 million impressions. ☀☀

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TheBiologyStupid · 26/05/2022 16:11

I just shouted the bundle page number to AH!

ickky · 26/05/2022 16:12

TheBiologyStupid · 26/05/2022 16:11

I just shouted the bundle page number to AH!

I've been doing the same.

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Roseglen84 · 26/05/2022 16:13

Some lovely beard stroking going on...

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 26/05/2022 16:13

I don't waive privilege because there is no way it justifies what we did.

TheBiologyStupid · 26/05/2022 16:13

ickky · 26/05/2022 16:11

Fantastic from 42 tweets to 31 million impressions. ☀☀

Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people!

Pyjamagame · 26/05/2022 16:13

Ah wakes up

Mmmnotsure · 26/05/2022 16:14

SH: now putting her own questions to herself and answering them

TheBiologyStupid · 26/05/2022 16:15

I meant the sunlight on GC(C) obviously. If they had ignored the tweets their reputation wouldn't be in tatters.

Poplia · 26/05/2022 16:15

nauticant · 26/05/2022 16:07

Am I getting a bit of Scouse in SH voice?

I also thought there’s a bit of the north west in there.

ickky · 26/05/2022 16:15

Mmmnotsure · 26/05/2022 16:14

SH: now putting her own questions to herself and answering them

Yes there is no need for BC, she can tell us all how it happened.

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