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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 17

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ickky · 03/06/2022 15:32

The Tribunal started on 25th April, witness testimony concluded on the 26th May. Closing arguments for council will be on the 20th June. I don't know if the existing links and pins will work. I will email nearer the time to check.

If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access.
Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 20th June 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Thread 13 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556235-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-13

Thread 14 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556407-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-14

Thread 15 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556803-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-15

Thread 16 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4557036-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-16

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

To Come

Closing arguments for AB, GCC, and SW (20 June)

OP posts:
tigertactics · 20/06/2022 09:43

samsalmon · 20/06/2022 09:40

I followed the main hearing on here but not directly so have no link to follow (or a PIN), I’ve asked for this time but no response. Is there any way to access the original link and PIN? Would it be allowed for someone to DM me that? Would like to follow bits of it today as and when I’m free.

Just sent I think

ZombieMumEB · 20/06/2022 09:44

Checking in fromAustralia.

Allison is an inspiration.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 20/06/2022 09:50

'Waiting for the conference host to join' chap - ah, how I've missed you!

WookeyHole · 20/06/2022 09:50

Hunting a post it to cover my camera, just in case Grin

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 20/06/2022 09:52

WookeyHole · 20/06/2022 09:50

Hunting a post it to cover my camera, just in case Grin

I know. Having been 100% confident of camera and mic settings for weeks, I had a wobble joining this morning. How quickly our brains expunge extraneous information.

I'm sitting here in my PJs with a threadbare T-shirt. Am hoping I've got it right!

LipbalmOrKnickers · 20/06/2022 09:55

I'm in (with old PIN!)

ickky · 20/06/2022 09:55

I'm in, the original pin works. 😄

OP posts:
oviraptor21 · 20/06/2022 09:55

In on the old link and PIN

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 20/06/2022 09:56

I'm in. I'm in!!!!

ickky · 20/06/2022 09:56

The lovely Raymond is clerking again today.

OP posts:
TheBiologyStupid · 20/06/2022 09:56

Yay - there's Allison!

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 20/06/2022 09:56

Aww. It's Raymond clerking again. Like old times.

oviraptor21 · 20/06/2022 09:56

Oh - we get to see the lovely Raymond the clerk.
I haven't seen this bit before.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 20/06/2022 09:56

My original PIN isn't working...could someone please DM it to me?

MissSusanStoHelit · 20/06/2022 09:58

I'm here for the updates - good luck, Allison! We're rooting for you!

CatsOperatingInGangs · 20/06/2022 09:58

Hang on, are you guys in? I've still got the soothing voice chap

samsalmon · 20/06/2022 09:58

What is the conference alias or URI on the link please, anyone?

CatsOperatingInGangs · 20/06/2022 09:58

Can someone send me the PIN too?

ickky · 20/06/2022 09:59

Just been put back in the waiting room. There are many people here already.

OP posts:
HarmonicAnalysis · 20/06/2022 09:59

Same, CatsOperatingInGangs - I'm "waiting for the conference host to join" on the old link and PIN.

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 20/06/2022 09:59

I've still got the waiting for the conference host to join man. Can't see anyone.

I've come in and out again, what shall I do?

ifIwerenotanandroid · 20/06/2022 09:59

Me too, Cats

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2022 09:59

I'm having laptop issues, don't have the energy to carry it from room to room so currently have one saying waiting for the conference host to join in the kitchen and one in the living room.

Such fun!

Thinking of you today Allison and hope Ben has been resting his vocal chords over the weekend in preparation!

Ameanstreakamilewide · 20/06/2022 09:59

I'm in...but i'm in the same boat as you, Cats. I can only hear the 'Waiting for...' message.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 20/06/2022 10:00

I'm in!

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