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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 17

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ickky · 03/06/2022 15:32

The Tribunal started on 25th April, witness testimony concluded on the 26th May. Closing arguments for council will be on the 20th June. I don't know if the existing links and pins will work. I will email nearer the time to check.

If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access.
Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 20th June 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Thread 13 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556235-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-13

Thread 14 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556407-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-14

Thread 15 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556803-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-15

Thread 16 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4557036-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-16

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

To Come

Closing arguments for AB, GCC, and SW (20 June)

OP posts:
User237845 · 20/06/2022 01:00

Hello, I am also relying on the old PIN working. Could someone poss pm me if it is a new one please?

SerotinaPickeler · 20/06/2022 03:12

Placemarking

LipbalmOrKnickers · 20/06/2022 05:51

Up ridiculously early. Sent request for new PIN yesterday and hoping for a response when they get in this morning. Are we expecting a 10am start again today?

Rightsraptor · 20/06/2022 06:25

What's the email address to request a new PIN, please? I'm really hoping the old one works.

SpinningRoundRightRound · 20/06/2022 06:30

From the OP:
……………………..

“If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access.
Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 20th June 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.”

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 20/06/2022 06:30

Checking in.

TessaSmith · 20/06/2022 06:49

Placemarking

Birdsweepsin · 20/06/2022 06:52

That felt remarkably even-handed for the Graurdian

Rightsraptor · 20/06/2022 07:58

When I asked for a PIN for today the reply says the access link and PIN remain the same for the duration of the hearing so, if the summing up is part of the hearing, the original PINS should still be valid.

oviraptor21 · 20/06/2022 08:07

Ah, that's encouraging.

Lougle · 20/06/2022 08:10

Posting to remember for later.

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 20/06/2022 09:16

I can log in and get the waiting for the conference host to join message but obviously don't know if this will eventually be connected.

Please if you get an email from the tribunal about logging in could you post to let us know.

Manderleyagain · 20/06/2022 09:16

Birdsweepsin · 20/06/2022 06:52

That felt remarkably even-handed for the Graurdian

Yes it is a pretty straight forward and accurate description. I think because it's by the legal correspondent. It reads like proper journalism - by an outsider looking in, detail about the case and the legal points, plus the context of the wider debate and the case's significance there.

Pyjamagame · 20/06/2022 09:23

What time does it kick-off today?

Cheers,

P

Clymene · 20/06/2022 09:27

Rightsraptor · 20/06/2022 07:58

When I asked for a PIN for today the reply says the access link and PIN remain the same for the duration of the hearing so, if the summing up is part of the hearing, the original PINS should still be valid.

Oh good! I forgot to ask for a new pin following allison's email on Friday.

jeaux90 · 20/06/2022 09:28

I'm in on the old link and PIn but not sure if it's a 10am or 9.30 start.

ickky · 20/06/2022 09:29

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 20/06/2022 09:16

I can log in and get the waiting for the conference host to join message but obviously don't know if this will eventually be connected.

Please if you get an email from the tribunal about logging in could you post to let us know.

Me too, let's hope we are in the right room.

OP posts:
ickky · 20/06/2022 09:30

I think it is 10am start today.

OP posts:
Pyjamagame · 20/06/2022 09:31

Thanks ickky

chilling19 · 20/06/2022 09:35

I can get into the waiting room too. I did request a new pin just in case, but not received anything yet.

ickky · 20/06/2022 09:36

TT have said it's 10am.

OP posts:
tigertactics · 20/06/2022 09:38

Can't wait for beautiful Ben. Missed him so much.

Rightsraptor · 20/06/2022 09:38

I used my previous pin and seem to have got through to the waiting room OK.

Nothing happening yet.

samsalmon · 20/06/2022 09:40

I followed the main hearing on here but not directly so have no link to follow (or a PIN), I’ve asked for this time but no response. Is there any way to access the original link and PIN? Would it be allowed for someone to DM me that? Would like to follow bits of it today as and when I’m free.

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 20/06/2022 09:43

I'm in, I'm waiting. I've a coffee and celebratory spliff ready. Everything crossed.

Excited to see Ben, the support wren and hopefully Judges support cat.

Whatever happens THANK YOU ALLISON!!! In awe of her for pursuing this.

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