Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 16

[ickky]

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Thread 13 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556235-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-13

Thread 14 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556407-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-14

Thread 15 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556803-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-15

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

To Come

Closing arguments for AB, GCC, and SW (20 June)

Please do try it boiled - it's a totally different (better) experience!

I'm going in...

@ThinkWittyThoughts
Pfft pfftpft pffft.

Blghhhhhhhh

Oh dear. You do need to keep in the tea for about 5 seconds, to let most of the biscuit become soggy (but not drop to bottom of cup)

In other news I found 2 pictures of my giant Jaffa cake (not Jamie cake - bloody autocarrot)

Hopefully they load

For all the Ben Cooper fans, he will next be starring in the Prof Jo Phoenix vs The Open University Employment Tribunal, date to be confirmed.

Much like Kathleen Stock, she was hounded out of her job.

Prof Jo also has a Crowdfunder if you are so inclined.

@SpindleSheWrote & @theemperorhasnoclothes

This is not an organic movement. It is worldwide. There is some big money behind this campaign. It has infiltrated governments and public bodies all across the world and all at the same time.

Movements don't usually happen that way.

That looks delicious. I also agree about tea with Bourbons and Custard Creams. You have to know the dropping point though or it ruins the tea.

Fellow tribunal watchers, am posting here now (though may go on to Chat) because we have a wren in need of support .

We think our dog disturbed a ground nest in the garden earlier today and killed one baby and the other is sitting in the middle of our lawn. It has some feathers and some fluff. We are very rural with at least one cat nearby which I know comes into our garden. A parent is still coming to see it atm but i can't imagine it will survive if we leave it where it is over night.

What should we do? I think move it into a shrub at the edge of our garden where hopefully the mum/dad will find it? What do you think?

Hello HELLO

Where has everyone gone?

I bet you are all stuffing your faces with biscuits.

Well this is exciting news! Thanks Ickky

@User237845 Can you put it higher up safely?

@ickky ! I need help with the baby wren!

Sorry cross post. We could try but the nest was in a hole in our lawn (long story, also outing!) So it is used to being subterranean, weirdly. God knows how the nest survived so long where it was with cats and dogs and whatnot. Poor little thing.

Wow! Has he cornered the market?? Excellent!

After a quick google it said they usually nest in hollows or a crevice in a tree. I don't really know what to suggest. Can you post in AIBU, it gets a lot of traffic.

Unfortunately he has now got a specialism.

Thanks, Ickky, much more sensible, it was just because it was a little wren, it seemed appropriate! (But obv don't want to derail the legal chat inordinately!)

That's okay, it has turned into a biscuits odyssey anyway

On further reading, it says a hedge is okay as long as it is sheltered and not too far from where you found it.

Hey guys, I’m back, what have I missed? Nothing bad, I hope…just going to catch up with the thread no- what the fuck????

This is fantastic news.
Do we know yet if Jo's tribunal will also be online?

Oh thank God!!

First I not so funnily killed you off. Plot twist don't panic!

Then a poor wren was reported as injured.....

I was beginning to think I'd caused some horrible real world imaginary world crossover

But you're here ! And well??? I hope!

Hey guys, I’m back, what have I missed? Nothing bad, I hope…just going to catch up with the thread no- what the fuck????

This new Mumsnet site software goes unstable if you ever reach the 15555th post on a topic, then this happens, whatever this is.

Do we know yet if Jo's tribunal will also be online?

I'm not sure. It should be available. I will keep an eye on her fundraiser for updates.

If I know the area and the date, I can find the remote viewing request details.

Do we know yet if Jo's tribunal will also be online?

If BBC 4 could obtain permission to set up a streaming service for tribunals like this, Ben Cooper it could yet be the saving of them…

Nothing bad, I hope…just going to catch up with the thread no- what the fuck????

Read on, it turned into a typical drama's cliffhanger to make sure that we all tuned in for further installments.

What should we do? I think move it into a shrub at the edge of our garden where hopefully the mum/dad will find it? What do you think?

Phone them: www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/wildlife/injuredanimals

Ben's not the only one becoming a specialist...