Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 16

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Thread 13 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556235-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-13

Thread 14 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556407-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-14

Thread 15 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556803-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-15

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

To Come

Closing arguments for AB, GCC, and SW (20 June)

This is the way

(gratuitous Mandalorian mention) <oo>

Me, a swan? Ah, go on!

Do I have friends? Am I not such an ugly duckling afterall?

These threads have been brill. You're all brill. I've been having a horrible time at work, it's been a way to distract from my mundane troubles and fight the bigger fight with Allison.

if one of my juniors has repeatedly ballsed up what should be a straightforward admin task, and made me look really stupid in front of all of mumsnet, I probably wouldn't be over-keen on them having another stab at it.

I have to agree - I'd rather face the wrath of the Bar Standards Board than the contempt of Mumsnet

I wouldn't dare contradict Mr Donald Potter QC's ruling on this at the VAT tribunal in 1991!

That's where she got her cap, surely?

❤

😂

He'll have to rename himself as "Mick Jaffa" for this thread - isn't "Sticky Fingers" all about the aftermath of biscuit consumption?

The King, Queen and Emperor of all biscuits - now and forever is...

🥁 roll, please.

McVitie's Boasters. Absolutely gorgeous biscuits.
I ate an awful lot of them when I was on maternity leave. 😋

Huzzah for Allison for her grace and composure; and for Ben for his all-round brilliance, day after day.

Oops, I'm too used to sites where replies appear under the comment you're replying to and now I've reached the end of this thread and my inane thoughts are all bunched up together. Like a GC(C) barrister apologising for wrongthink, I will try to do better in future!

It's too late on a Friday night for anything other than dashing in and skim reading the thread, especially as I'm far too busy and important to give it my full attention and need to book a flight to Albania. It does feel like it might be an apposite time for an insightful question.

Just wish I was sharp enough to think of one.

Sorry I've been having a lovely time having biscuits and Columbo with ny eldest. Mr Spock murdered so many people! But Columbo tricked him ino saving a guy who could have been Grandpa from the Waltons. He'd sewn his heart up wrong but Columbo got him to do it properly and found the old stitches that Spock had hidden in his pocket I may have had too much sugar jaffa cakes are really bad with tea cake to my fingertips glad we're all friends again.

Lemon!!!! I hate lemon flavoured cake! I accidentally bought the wrong pack. God knows why, but I wasn't concentrating when I did the shopping the last few weeks.

But I do like cake so you know I could throw away and buy more cake or go over to Sarah 's fundraiser and keep eating lemon flavour cat licked, slightly stale cake.

And here we are!!

Thank you for the reminder about Sarah's gardening, given the hour I have planted some night shades.

I've read almost every one of the posts on these many threads, never caught up quick enough to contribute. But thank you all for your insight, wit and wisdom. And iccky for excellence in thread management. And of course Allison for incredible grace, courage and fortitude. You are some woman for one woman.

(And in biscuit related matters, thanks for the jaffa cake recipe, I have some "spare" sponge in the freezer that was in need of inspiration)

Does anyone have a share token for this article in the times please?
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/allison-bailey-tribunal-against-stonewall-captivates-the-bar-97wqsdwp5

Actually never mind I've got one!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/5c3a57d0-dded-11ec-bcbd-e35b52e0266c?shareToken

Thank you @Bundlephobia , unfortunately I can't see the article, it is just me?

No I can’t either.

Does this work?

Allison Bailey tribunal against Stonewall captivates the Bar

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/5c3a57d0-dded-11ec-bcbd-e35b52e0266c?shareToken=8e470298dbe7b6e7d47c9fbba6c152f6

Yes @McDuffy Thank you.
💐💐 for Alison. What a Star you are.🌟🌟

I am always too late, but have followed these threads and neglected my children (and work). My flabber is gasted.

Pear jaffa cakes, though 🤩

Thanks @McDuffy ! - my apologies, not sure what went wrong with my link. I'm a brand new Times subscriber (on the back of their excellent coverage of GC issues) so just trying to learn how to work the sharing

Thanks @McDuffy and thanks @Bundlephobia for trying.

I find this but interesting

Bailey is also able to sue Stonewall because the Equality Act 2010 states that it is unlawful to induce, cause or influence prohibited conduct. In this case, it is alleged that Stonewall put pressure on Garden Court to discipline Bailey over her gender-critical comments.

I've been trying to work out for it fits together and no fully understanding the detriments, so this helps.

Just reading the Times article. It's probably for the best that GCC can't read it because it's behind a paywall!

"Arguably most damaging, it has been alleged that Garden Court is a fundamentally badly managed chambers with its QC heads and other senior lawyers having told the tribunal they were on holiday, too busy, looking after their children — or even based abroad — at crucial times in the dispute with Bailey"

"As one lawyer said as the main evidence session finished this week: “The trial has been reputationally appalling for both Garden Court and Stonewall"

It's delicious to read

*bit

And I don't know what happened to my quotation marks.

If nothing else, Allison has levelled up in the “having friends” stakes. From a bunch of backstabbers and Stasiesque informants to JKR and the women at that amazing lunch. I know which of the two groups I’d want as my friends.

Is it too early for some support shortbread?