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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 15

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ickky · 26/05/2022 09:23

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhause

r QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC (teehee)
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Thread 13 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556235-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-13

Thread 14 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556407-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-14

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

To come:

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malloo · 26/05/2022 12:38

SenselessUbiquity · 26/05/2022 12:36

FUCK I MUST DO SOME WORK

😁

Mrskettleson · 26/05/2022 12:38

MB is intensely defensive of stonewall.

IloveHolby · 26/05/2022 12:38

Finally back in!

Zeugma · 26/05/2022 12:39

Any minute now she’s going to deny that she’s ever heard of Stonewall.

IloveHolby · 26/05/2022 12:39

To a stressed sounding MB

Boiledbeetle · 26/05/2022 12:39

christmas

ickky · 26/05/2022 12:39

@Penguintears Glad you are out of surgery safely. Hope it went well.

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Gabcsika · 26/05/2022 12:39

Christmas BINGO

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/05/2022 12:39

Christmas! DRINK

tabbycatstripy · 26/05/2022 12:39

'No debate' is fascistic. In her witness statement MB says not allowing dissent is fascistic. So what about 'no debate' isn't fascistic?

WallaceinAnderland · 26/05/2022 12:39

No one would read email as it was near Christmas!

SidewaysOtter · 26/05/2022 12:39

“It was Christmas”

HOUSE! DRINK! ANYTHING ELSE!

Mmmnotsure · 26/05/2022 12:39

MB's reply all generated no interest in chambers she says.
But then it was Just Before Christmas

nauticant · 26/05/2022 12:39

That was an unfortunate choice of words in AB's email, "Stonewall [is] complicit in a campaign of harassment, intimidation and threats" and it wasn't helpful to her case to reply as "reply all".

TopKnotch · 26/05/2022 12:40

A very benign email "we are Stonewall Champions"

Benign to everyone but Allison. Everyone else in Chambers AOK according to MB

chilling19 · 26/05/2022 12:40

MB - spluttering

SenselessUbiquity · 26/05/2022 12:40

She's actually shouting!

Chrysanthemum5 · 26/05/2022 12:40

I'm astonished MB is a judge

katmarie · 26/05/2022 12:40

we are a chambers of 200 people. MB loves to point out numbers doesn't she?

LipbalmOrKnickers · 26/05/2022 12:41

Ding, dong!

Chrysanthemum5 · 26/05/2022 12:41

Thank you very much Mr Cooper - oh the venom in that

TopKnotch · 26/05/2022 12:41

"I outlined what was transphobic about Allison"

Poor, poor Allison

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/05/2022 12:41

I thought IO would ask her.

ickky · 26/05/2022 12:41

BC finished with MB, IO to cross.

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Chrysanthemum5 · 26/05/2022 12:41

IO is frozen

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