Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 13

[ickky]

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:
Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Katherine McGahy - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - clerk at GCC (24 May
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, to concluded on 25th May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing

To come:

Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge.
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers

It's going to be an important day - I won't be getting much done.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556407-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-14

Thanks ickky - threads coming faster than in The Dragons of Pern!

Hopefully my surgery will be first thing so I can listen groggily to MB while recovering. If not will be following TT closely.

James Dreyfus follows me on twitter... not that I am boasting 😺 (support cat)

I find it hard to understand why anyone would be so furiously nasty about a data request. It seems to me that there was an underlying hostility to AB already, otherwise SS response is a massive overreaction.

Yes, katmarie.

It was a hugely intemperate response, and a personal attack.

And maybe Alison not being rich enough to sue them....😁

Thanks ickky!

Can I ask about the non downloadable bundle? Bit late in the day, I know…
How does it work? Is there a way to access it but not store it, is that how it goes? And if you request it in the chat box, do they give you that access? Or do you have to be a journalist?

Just googled Michelle Brewer and found a TELI slide on Facebook.

This. Makes. No. Sense. Whatsoever.

Marsha P Johnson and Sylvia Rivera lead London Pride?

www.facebook.com/UKTELI

Well done everyone who saw the day out, it was extremely hard going today. The interminable voice & pace of DdM, alone, was a test of utmost endurance .

@WomensLandArmy hopefully your little one will be fine, but is there any chance of taking them to A and E.

Just to make sure you understand. Nothing to do with the optics of episode 8: a mumsnet user, with child, action drive sequence through rush hour traffic to get to the hospital. Oh no not at all!

Seriously though hope it's nearly all out of their system!

Good luck for tomorrow, @Penguintears.

All of this GCC testimony is what closing ranks looks like in action. It seems to me that Allison Bailey has been shut out of everyone's thinking as someone deserving / entitled to be treated as an equal member since her email in December 2018 about GCC associating itself with Stonewall.

For a chambers that lauds the ideas of diversity, inclusion and equality, it seems to me that there was a condition requiring conformity of thought and expression.

Why is SS himself not here explaining himself??

I'm sure I've seen him in the observers a couple of times.

I've had two episodes of support yarn buying this week. I've tried so hard to give it up, but you know...

🍇All the best 🌻

We spent SEVEN hours in A and E recently with middle child, so no thank you, even in the interest of site drama! He's asleep, but boiling, poor sausage.

You just click the link and it will open in a new window. Be warned it takes at least 5 minutes to appear as it is a large file that needs to load.

There seems to be something horrible going around all the children. My DD2 was off with vomiting and fever last week. Horrid. Virtually the whole nursery and reception have it.

I love the idea of a movie with little vignettes of MN users cleaning up child sick, ministering to poorly kids, crocheting, decorating and trying to work whilst listening to this court case about women's rights. It's hardly the typical demonstration of evil bigots is it.

@TheBiologyStupid

Booking a white support dragon from Pern. Ruth can croon and twitch their tail ...

Be careful with the hot.

If you are invoking Toast Fairies early on morning, or late in the evening, the hot can come through the electrickery pipe too quickly because no-one else is using any so it comes through in a great rush because there is a lot of it sloshing about just waiting.

This can cause a smoke to come out and the angry Fairies leave black toast instead of brown, because the smoke makes their eyes hurt.

No. Supposedly trans women have been at the forefront of every advance in LGB rights since history began.

And then Get the L Out protested at 'Pride in London' (London Pride is a beer Michelle) and obviously lesbians are an affront to decent society.

Only if it's EcoFairies on duty.

Bugger. I cleared today for it. Tomorrow morning I am in a 3 hour training course.

Next witness:
Kathryn Cronin - senior member of Garden Court Chambers and former Joint Head until January 2017; barrister, area of practice: immigation

Blimey - by her photo she is frightened that the camera has captured her soul. She can't possibly cope with twitter voodoo.