Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 13

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

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The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

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Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:
Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Katherine McGahy - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - clerk at GCC (24 May
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, to concluded on 25th May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing

To come:

Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge.
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers

Gosh... imagine having to work with all these awful people.

I guess SS isn't going to be called as a witness?

KC just be an excellent QC because she's managing to find excuses for SS's rudeness every time

Oh god, if I were being questioned by BC the words 'I'll come back to that Ms Settings0' would fill me fear!

Feel like we need someone to walk behind Ben holding up page numbers a la wrestling matches

I've nearly finished decorating my study/spare bedroom with this case going on. Just finished painting some cupboards today. Tomorrow I'll paint the curtain pole and finials. I've done walls, floors, skirting boards, hefted furniture around taken down and rehung curtains, hung all the pictures back -the juicing lot. Plus all the gardening I got done when waiting for paint to dry. I should have a starring role in this!

QC at GCC

I meant KC rambling response but should have been clearer - and agree with you re SS. Another prince of a man.

KC justifying the nature of SS's correspondence on the basis that it was in the context of litigation. That's the exact context when SS's horrible comments are at their most inappropriate.

Ooooh, Ben's been told off!

More puking here, what have I missed?

Effectively WomensLandArmy, that when AB made a Subject Access Request to GCC, the person they handed it to, Stephen Simblet QC, dealt with it in an exceptionally unpleasant way.

Who's telling Ben off????

Sorry to hear that - hope DC feels better soon.

JR would never miss an opportunity to have a swipe at BC.

Fucking hell. I think there must be gossip spreading round like wildfire. We've seen all these supposedly intelligent QCs etc stuttering, erming, shouting, going red, blustering....

It's just unbelieveable, isn't it?

Brewer and Harrison must all be quaking in their boots.

SS responded to Peter Daly SAR request with a request of his own for payment to disclose the SAR.

When informed that no payment is due, referenced ICO guildines. SS wrote back a very rude letter saying he had nothing and was not at all interested in any of AB's views or opinions and twice referenced a public begging campaign. Also said that his letter could not be reproduced or used for any purposes.

Well that worked well.

Was it JR?

EJ Goodman - he talked over the witness.

KC who conducted the inquiry into victimisation explaining how "you might very think that I'm afraid I couldn't possibly comment" on pretty much everything

E4206 recurring

I'm not buying this, but then IANAL.

What a twat.

Think it was the judge? She just has 'Employment...' in front of her on my screen. For talking over the witness. I got the impression she is a woman used to men trying to talk over her!

Maybe RMW fell asleep?