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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 13

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ickky · 25/05/2022 11:31

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:
Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Katherine McGahy - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - clerk at GCC (24 May
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, to concluded on 25th May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing

To come:

Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge.
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers

OP posts:
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BeBraveLittlePenguin · 25/05/2022 11:57

Why did GCC pay such careful attention to all the anonymous frothers, and ignore completely the rather more measured emails and tweets in support of AB, it's just bonkers.

WallaceinAnderland · 25/05/2022 11:57

DDM agrees that twitter posts show replies underneath!

pardonmytits · 25/05/2022 11:57

Dick Warlock getting so much airtime!

IloveHolby · 25/05/2022 11:57

I'm not on twitter - is there a way I can see the live tribunal tweets without it?

LipbalmOrKnickers · 25/05/2022 11:58

'I think he was talking about (his own special Twitter)'

Ameanstreakamilewide · 25/05/2022 11:58

BC calls out Marc Willers BS about Twitter.

'It's just wrong, isn't it? '

Gabcsika · 25/05/2022 11:58

DW being called up for nonsense yesterday that he didn't see relplies.. DDM, struggling to say yes.

Cailleach1 · 25/05/2022 11:59

IloveHolby · 25/05/2022 11:57

I'm not on twitter - is there a way I can see the live tribunal tweets without it?

Yes, I'm not on twitter and am following their reporting online.

twitter.com/tribunaltweets?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

LipbalmOrKnickers · 25/05/2022 11:59

Zeugma · 25/05/2022 11:54

It reminded me very much of the cover illustration of 'H is for Hawk', but it’s not quite that (yes, I was sad enough to google). But it does look like some sort of raptor.

Exactly what I was thinking of Zeugma, how splendid!

TheBiologyStupid · 25/05/2022 12:00

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 25/05/2022 11:56

Such as not just retweeting Alex Sharpe's 'Terf' tweets without checking what the word means first.

Yes, risking THAT kind of reputational damage is fine!

LipbalmOrKnickers · 25/05/2022 12:01

WinterTrees · 25/05/2022 11:47

Every time something from the bingo card comes up I have resolved to do a set of pelvic floor squeezes. Starting late, but I think I'll be able to do 10 minutes on the trampoline by end of play Friday.

Fabulous! 😂

Lougle · 25/05/2022 12:01

IloveHolby · 25/05/2022 11:57

I'm not on twitter - is there a way I can see the live tribunal tweets without it?

You don't have to have a twitter profile to see them. Just search for tribunal tweets on google and then it will take you to the twitter page.

WomensLandArmy · 25/05/2022 12:01

'glitch' ie 'cock up'

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 25/05/2022 12:01

Glitch in the matrix spreadsheet.

chilling19 · 25/05/2022 12:02

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 25/05/2022 12:01

Glitch in the matrix spreadsheet.

Ha!

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 25/05/2022 12:03

I'm so gutted I'm getting him and not Michelle Brewer. Bloody timetabling. Is she in an Important Case today.

Signalbox · 25/05/2022 12:03

Ben Cooper taking the opportunity to read abusive tweets again :D

Ameanstreakamilewide · 25/05/2022 12:04

BC - 'Choke on your own blood, Terf'

ifIwerenotanandroid · 25/05/2022 12:04

Lougle · 25/05/2022 12:01

You don't have to have a twitter profile to see them. Just search for tribunal tweets on google and then it will take you to the twitter page.

Twitter has been blocking off the page & telling the user to join twitter to see more - I thought there was a way round it but I can't remember what it is. Anyone?

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 25/05/2022 12:05

"Shut the fuck up TERF" and IO interjects

chilling19 · 25/05/2022 12:05

Interruption !

Ameanstreakamilewide · 25/05/2022 12:05

BC - 'Shut the fuck up, Terf'

ifIwerenotanandroid · 25/05/2022 12:05

I meant whatever page a non-twitter-user reader is looking at, not TT particularly.

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 25/05/2022 12:06

AH does not get Twitter at all.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 25/05/2022 12:07

What's the image to the right of BC: a large painting?

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