Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 18

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The Tribunal started on 25th April, witness testimony concluded on the 26th May. Closing arguments for council was on the 20th June.

There was also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC )
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case

Panel = Judge Goodman, Mr M. Reuby and Ms Darmas

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

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Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)
Closing arguments for AB, GCC, and SW (20 June)

Allison Bailey's

Witness Statement

allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Witness-Statement-of-Allison-Bailey.pdf

Supplementary Statement

allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/C-Supplementary-Witness-Statement.pdf

Closing Statement

allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/CLOSING-SUBMISSIONS-FINAL.pdf

Kirrin Medcalf was very nicely walked through taking personal responsibility for that email etc. and distancing self from speaking for SW at the time.

Wow!!! This is wonderful news! Thank you Allison, you absolute legend! My heart has been thumping for the past half an hour ♥️

OMFG WELL DONE ALLISON BAILEY.

I'm crying.

Soooo happy. What a woman! Stonewall have shown themselves to be an absolutely shocking shower of arseholes and regardless of this, they are finished. It's coming round the corner at speed.

Is it too early for a glass of something bubbly?

I hope this gets widely reported in the mainstream press.

I hope Allison, her team and key supporters have some lovely plans for this evening.

She may have lost against Stonewall, but which employer in their right mind would now want to pay them for their "advice" when they see a result like this?! They are over.

Congratulations Allison 🥳

Amazing!!! I'm whooping and cheering here!!

This is WONDERFUL news!

I'm actually weeping with joy and relief here! Really physically weeping - I hadn't realised myself just how invested I was.

Allison - you absolute star!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

{{{{{ENORMOUS HUGS}}}}

Alison, this is wonderful. So very pleased for you.

Regardless of the legal court, I believe she has surely won against Stonewall in the court of public opinion. Which they will fucking hate.

YES!

That's amazing news. Huge huge congratulations to Allison. Absolutely phenomenal courage - what a wonderful role model and advocate for truth. Just brilliant.

I suppose the bittersweet thing is that GCC have taken the rap for failing to exercise due diligence and ignoring the law and basic democracy while Stonewall, the bloated organisation that imposes its toxic values on society, gets away scot free.
Some GCC barristers have done a lot of good in the world and although some were exposed for holding regressive views of lesbians and woman generally, I know this doesn't represent most of them.

Fantastic news! What a woman! I can only thank you, truly, for everything you've bought into the light, Alison Bailey, I imagine, at great personal cost. I'm going to know have a coffee and support biscuit to celebrate 🍾

Me, too @ickky

The tears are coursing down my cheeks - this is so good!

Quite. Any 'advice' received from stonewall runs the risk of organisations being taken to court, and losing.

I have a tear in my eye too. This is huge.

Well done Allison and all your team from a very grateful supporter and contributor. You have made my day ❤

This is the best bit so far.

In doing so the tribunal held that my protected gender critical belief also included the belief that "gender identity theory as proselytised by Stonewall is severely detrimental" to women, and to lesbians.

Really want to read the whole judgement.

Wonder if GCC will now sue Stonewall for shit advice that will cost them thousands? Probably not but it's all there in glorious sunlight

Well done Allison, you are a very brave lady. I hope this is widely reported and helps to stop the Stonewall juggernaut. I hope you've got a wonderful celebration planned

So GCC have been found guilty for acting on Stonewall's illegal advice but not Stonewall for giving said advice. Ok... I think Stonewall are fairly covered in shit over this and good luck to them spinning this as any sort of positive. 'Listen to our illegal advice and get sued'.

If it doesn't sound too crazy I suspect that AB not winning her case against SW might not be such a great thing for SW business model. We'll tell you to break the law but when you get sued it's nowt to do with us, is not a compelling offer in business speak.

The sunlight is priceless.

What a relief! I hope the damages are enough to make a difference for her too. I hope GCC are so so sorry for their awful behaviour. Imagine how she feels!!

Have either of the respondents (especially Stonewall) commented at all?

So so happy. Well done Allison.

Hopefully this will be the final nail in the Stonewall.