Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 13

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:
Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Katherine McGahy - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - clerk at GCC (24 May
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, to concluded on 25th May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing

To come:

Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge.
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers

You need the magic box with the little holes in the top. You lower the bread, wait a bit and it completely disappears! and then the toast fairies put toast in the bread's place.

Fuck me, would Mr H not have enlightened himself as to how Twitter works BEFORE a Tribunal hearing?

“Now, a “retweet”…what is that?”

<dies of boredom>

Also DDM’s defence seems to be “There was something that needed to be taken into consideration in case it was a big issue but I didn’t consider whether the specifics of the issue needed to be considered”.

AH 'What was the volume of responses to the GC tweets?'

DDM 'Some'

Exactly. It’s not a popularity contest.

Why does DDM keep looking off to the side???

🤣

So these idiots have just demonstrated to the whole tribunal that DDM was only pretending not to know how to use Twitter? Are they trying to lose or do they have something incredibly devious up their sleeves?

This must be running down the clock, surely? Otherwise what the hell is it achieving for GCC?

AH may have realised he's not going to win and decided to use this as a Twitter instruction bootcamp instead. Might as well cut your losses and get something out of it.

I'm trying to make toast and I'm completely unfamiliar with the technology could someone explain to me where I might place the bread?

Depends, are you wasting the time of a court full of highly paid legal professionals while I explain how to you how toasters can be operationalised and what to do if there's a burny smell coming off one? Will the correct use of toasters be an absolutely central issue in this court case?

If yes, definitely. Sounds like a great laugh.

I'm bored of this, I'm going for a twix 😁

I'll give the contents of my bank account to anyone who can make this questioning STOP!!!!!

<preens>

Against us? And who would 'us' be DDM.

Ah, good. I didn't like to think you might be trapped in here with the vipers, DdeM & AH, unable to find your way out. (At this point, we're all looking for a way out aaaargh.....)

And I see dials on the side of the magic box, could you please explain the purpose and meaning of the numbers?

I hope the panel notes that.

I wrote a chat box message but then stopped myself sending it as I'm too much of a good girl. I want the tribunal to be told that all of Twitter is public.

It's the support borrower on the back of his head. DDM has no control over his eyes.

Freudian slip there. Polarised tweets in support of us, erm, no, erm Allison.

This is so spot on. 😂

I think his aim is to keep going until the end of Thursday in order to avoid MB being questioned. There will no doubt be more 'technical problems' too.

Hahahahahah.

EJG is so on top of Hochhauser's sly tactics.

Come on EJ, bring this to a close.

Mumsnet getting a bit shonky too. Keep losing connection.