Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 13

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:
Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Katherine McGahy - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - clerk at GCC (24 May
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, to concluded on 25th May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing

To come:

Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge.
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers

Didn't have a position in the debate my arse

We didn't have a corporate position in the sex v gender debate

This sounds pre-prepared.

BC - 'AB's position was contrary to GCC corporate position as a SW DC?'

Ive changed my Amazon smile donations to the LGB Alliance so they get a small donation every time I buy something on Amazon

GCC - Are we the bigots?

Dear oh Lor'

Just say yes & we can all go home.

WTF? Can anyone else hear Riders on the Storm, or is it just me? (I have so many tabs open I cant find it)

BC is starting to get annoyed ad DdM's evasive answers.

I got information and that was it - nothing to do with me. Rinse and repeat

Has he been asked to waste time? Making BC ask same question repeatedly.

BC - 'Had you been involved in discussions which led to GCC signing up to the SW DC scheme?'

Spends 60 seconds rambling but agrees.

Stephen Merchant crossed with Captain Pugwash!

DDM - waffle waffle waffle waffle more waffle in essence ....... yes

DDM asked whether he thought signing up to the diversity champions scheme was a good idea. Takes a looooong time to conclude that YES he did think it was a good idea. This could be about a week shorter if they would just say the answer.

If GCC didn’t have a position in the gender debate, we wouldn’t be listening to this tribunal in the first place. The bullying of Allison simply wouldn’t have happened in the first place

Wanting a clear note of which diversity champions were legal firms - hoping for extra work?

DDM is a very slooow reader.

DdM: "I thought [corrects himself to add "at the time"] that membership of SWDC was a good thing"

BC 'You presumably were involved in drafting the website statement that GCC is proud to be a SW Champion, etc...'

DdM: I can't recall now.

BC - You approve the website content, don't you?

DdM: Yes.

Oh FFS! My Chromebook is possessed! I've now got the Doors & Beethoven playing over Ben & Co. I managed to find & terminate the Northern Soul tab. I'm going nuts.

It's not just the coffee, is it?

How can you not remember if you drafted something? Even if you don't remember, as soon as you read it, you'll know if it's yours.

DDM - At the time I thought the DC scheme was a good thing to be involved in.

I bet he doesn't think that now.

Me too Shortpoet

Oh God, this is painful

I assume DdM would be a young beardy bloke given how quickly he panicked about the Twitter 'storm'

I've got rid of the Beethoven, still can't find the Doors. Have I slipped into a coma & I'm dreaming all this?