NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #9

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on Thursday 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse
Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2
Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3
Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4
Thread 5: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269149-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-5
Thread 6: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269635-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-6
Thread 7: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5270365-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-7
Thread 8: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271511-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-8

If he accepted women as adult human female then none of this would be an issue

I would love to be on the Maya F & Helen J WhatsApp back channel right now.

JR jumping in again

This is torture!

Omg, my swears are bubbling up

Oh wow he is currently telling NC that he doesn't understand her words because they aren't clear and so she must use his terms instead. This is wonderful. His desperate manipulative need to control other people's language is completely clear.

I'd love a chat with some of his work colleagues. What a nightmare he must be to work with.

JR jumps in. She can see her client hanging himself.

Maybe he's manstruating?

Careful judge

This. Times a hundred.

Need new thread!!

Quite. This is a one bedroom flat. It may have a single lilo on it and be a shed in a back yard, but it thinks it's a one bedroom garden flat so it is.

oh dear, judge wants terms defined, this is not going to work well

Is J asking NC to define woman LOL

here is the new thread

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271723-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-10

He's a dangerous man. I fear his wife will realise this too late. I hope she reconsiders having children with this man.

I think it probably just says WHAT A WANKEEEEEEER over and over - what else can anyone say?!

DU is compelling speech I.e. use the term “cis”.

Well done NC.

Do not use his language whatever you do

I can imagine that NC's pauses are unsettling for DrU - my experience with narcissists is that they come at you with a slightly different version of whatever untruth they are peddling if you manage to refute the first versions.
Browbeating, bullying you into submission.
Having an imposed silence must be difficult for this modus operandi.

What is a woman!

Did that judge just call him “victim”.

my experience with narcissists is that they come at you with a slightly different version of whatever untruth they are peddling if you manage to refute the first versions.

Spot on IME too

How Can his wife and parents watch and listen to this entitled [redacted] and not feel they had made some serious mistakes in their life choices supporting this?