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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 18

995 replies

ickky · 22/06/2022 20:26

The Tribunal started on 25th April, witness testimony concluded on the 26th May. Closing arguments for council was on the 20th June.

There was also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC )
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case

Panel = Judge Goodman, Mr M. Reuby and Ms Darmas

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Thread 13 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556235-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-13

Thread 14 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556407-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-14

Thread 15 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556803-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-15

Thread 16 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4557036-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-16

Thread 17 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4561850-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-17

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)
Closing arguments for AB, GCC, and SW (20 June)

Allison Bailey's

Witness Statement

allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Witness-Statement-of-Allison-Bailey.pdf

Supplementary Statement

allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/C-Supplementary-Witness-Statement.pdf

Closing Statement

allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/CLOSING-SUBMISSIONS-FINAL.pdf

OP posts:
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ResisterRex · 27/07/2022 12:14

She's won

Mollyollydolly · 27/07/2022 12:14

Yes yes yes!!

Madcats · 27/07/2022 12:14

Yay

ImNotOnTwitterButMySupportGoldfinchTweets · 27/07/2022 12:14

I thought the time it’d take me to catch up on the thread would get me to the judgement, but I’ve finished the thread and it isn’t here 😱

CompleteGinasaur · 27/07/2022 12:14

Can't help but think if I'm this wound up by the decision being 14 mins late what must it have been like for Allison all this time?

pardonmytits · 27/07/2022 12:14

She's tweeted! She's won!

ControversialOpening · 27/07/2022 12:15

She's won some. She says 'enough'

BIWI · 27/07/2022 12:15

Yay! But where can we read it?

Kitkatsareace · 27/07/2022 12:15

Woo hoo! Amazing!

GrinitchSpinach · 27/07/2022 12:15

YES! Not against Stonewall, but damages from GCC and so much sunlight!

TheBestBitch · 27/07/2022 12:15

OMG she won? Are we SURE? That's amazing if so!

Toomuchtea · 27/07/2022 12:15

Thank goodness for that! So pleased for Allison.

NonnyMouse1337 · 27/07/2022 12:15

Refresh refresh refresh....

DialSquare · 27/07/2022 12:15

I'm elated for her. Well done Allison you wonderful woman!

ResisterRex · 27/07/2022 12:15

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1552250836448837633

Actual judgement to follow

bellinisurge · 27/07/2022 12:15

Yipeee!!!!

ControversialOpening · 27/07/2022 12:15

The Employment Tribunal found that Garden Court Chambers discriminated against me because of my gender critical belief when it published a statement that I was under investigation & in upholding Stonewall’s complaint against me.

The ET further found that GCC also victimised me by upholding the Stonewall Complaint because of my protected act: tweeting against the idea of the ‘Cotton Ceiling’ & about the appalling levels of fear and intimidation driving the Stonewall self ID agenda.

In doing so the tribunal held that my protected gender critical belief also included the belief that "gender identity theory as proselytised by Stonewall is severely detrimental" to women, and to lesbians.

9years · 27/07/2022 12:16

So pleased for Alison. So much relief!

BIWI · 27/07/2022 12:16

Sorry - reading on Twitter now

ImNotOnTwitterButMySupportGoldfinchTweets · 27/07/2022 12:16

ImNotOnTwitterButMySupportGoldfinchTweets · 27/07/2022 12:14

I thought the time it’d take me to catch up on the thread would get me to the judgement, but I’ve finished the thread and it isn’t here 😱

Classic cross post 😂😂

superb news! Brava Allison! I can’t imagine the relief she must be feeling.

And brava Ickky, thanks so much for maintaining these threads!

ControversialOpening · 27/07/2022 12:16

The ET has ordered Garden Court Chambers to pay me damages, which include aggravated damages.

I have lost my case against Stonewall, but I have succeeded in exposing Stonewall’s conduct & the enormous
& to my mind malign influence it wields in the workplace & in society more generally.

Organisations who put ‘Stonewall Law’ before Equality Law or seek to silence others from lawfully voicing their criticism of Stonewall may be acting unlawfully & will suffer the consequences, even if Stonewall does not.

My profound & heartfelt thanks to everyone of you who supported me. I did not win everything but I won enough. We did it. Thank you.

Full judgement to follow.

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 27/07/2022 12:17

And breathe.

Not crowing so much on Twitter are you now? Bring on the bantz I say. Lots and lots and lots of lovely bantz.

tigertactics · 27/07/2022 12:17

Fantastic. Winning against Stonewall would have been a massive stretch so this is FANTASTIC and still does not exculpate them at all. HURRRAAAHHHHH.

ReneBumsWombats · 27/07/2022 12:17

It's finally, finally happening!