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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 15

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ickky · 26/05/2022 09:23

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhause

r QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC (teehee)
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Thread 13 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556235-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-13

Thread 14 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556407-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-14

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

To come:

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/05/2022 15:07

That was a very weary comment Grin

WallaceinAnderland · 26/05/2022 15:07

SH rambles about problems in chambers
EJ interjects, we're aware of all that
SH just giving as a reason for putting FFS in email regarding AB

Mmmnotsure · 26/05/2022 15:07

SH: The FFS comment, says JK sent this email because she was on her knees and thinking can my life get any worse cos of GCC problems.

[But the email is in reply to email which is only about AB.]

No one seems to see anything wrong with the existential threat that their actions then caused to AB

WookeyHole · 26/05/2022 15:08

I missed JK. What was the issue with a chief exec and a computer company?

FacebookPhotos · 26/05/2022 15:08

drwitch, exactly. Could my (independent) school sack me if I joined the socialist worker's party? Could PETA sack someone for eating meat?

IDidntKnowItWasAParty · 26/05/2022 15:08

All these GCC witness are proving themselves to be either
-stupid or
-lying or
-discriminatory
or some combination of the three. Not good any way you look at it.

WallaceinAnderland · 26/05/2022 15:09

SH was concerned about statement put out by GCC. Wanted to know who authorised it, or was it just David

ifIwerenotanandroid · 26/05/2022 15:11

Apologies. The cookies are Sicilian Orange & Dark Chocolate.

These details are important. And the cookies smell fantastic.

Birdsweepsin · 26/05/2022 15:12

A flash of 'oh no, he's got me' flashed across her eyes just then

Signalbox · 26/05/2022 15:12

ifIwerenotanandroid · 26/05/2022 15:11

Apologies. The cookies are Sicilian Orange & Dark Chocolate.

These details are important. And the cookies smell fantastic.

Tease!

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 26/05/2022 15:12

The funny thing is that virtually everyone in the Temple knows about this; lots are following; loads of discussions. All different specialisms and interest groups.

Not one person thinks GCC are coming out of this well. The reputational damage is from them, not AB.

Pluvia · 26/05/2022 15:13

I imagine BC's internally jumping up and down with glee. SH is doing all the work for him. Every time she opens her mouth she just shows more and more clearly how Allison had absolutely no hope of a fair hearing, such was the TRA/ SJW mindset of the leaders of GCC.

ickky · 26/05/2022 15:13

WookeyHole · 26/05/2022 15:08

I missed JK. What was the issue with a chief exec and a computer company?

Chief exec resigned and their computer system fucked up. (I'm sure they could have just turned it off and on again)

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CriticalCondition · 26/05/2022 15:14

nauticant · 26/05/2022 15:07

EJ is very tired of hearing again about the crises going on at GCC.

Actually I read that as sympathetic in order to give the witness a chance to compose themselves slightly. Maybe because she thought a further breakdown in composure might eat up valuable time.

WookeyHole · 26/05/2022 15:14

BH questioning why she's being thanked for assistance by JK with the complaints against AB when the email within which she's thanked doesn't even say what she's been doing I.e. she's more involved in ways not disclosed.

ickky · 26/05/2022 15:14

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 26/05/2022 15:12

The funny thing is that virtually everyone in the Temple knows about this; lots are following; loads of discussions. All different specialisms and interest groups.

Not one person thinks GCC are coming out of this well. The reputational damage is from them, not AB.

Tell us more.....

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 26/05/2022 15:14

Signalbox · 26/05/2022 15:12

Tease!

Hehehe

Crazylazydayz · 26/05/2022 15:15

Big Case

chilling19 · 26/05/2022 15:15

I WAS BUSY!

Pyjamagame · 26/05/2022 15:15

'I'm very important and busy'

Mmmnotsure · 26/05/2022 15:15

I was in an important case
bingo

WallaceinAnderland · 26/05/2022 15:15

SH Asking Judy has this been sanctioned from heads or David. No idea who made the complaints. Asked if they were formal complaints under the BSB. Had no clue what had been going on that week.

In that week I was very busy.

GAHgamel · 26/05/2022 15:15

"I was busy" bingo.

LolaLouLou · 26/05/2022 15:15

Bingo!

TheBiologyStupid · 26/05/2022 15:15

Too busy, big case. Bingo

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