Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 13

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Thread 11 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555145-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-11

Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:
Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Katherine McGahy - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - clerk at GCC (24 May
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, to concluded on 25th May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing

To come:

Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge.
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers

Who is instructing IO and RMW? Is Nancy Kelley watching? Is she logged in as Verity Shambles?

I counted. I'm sad like that.

Could you repeat the question for clarity?

It was actually 255 but some of those are solicitors

Unprecedented

he’s never opened his eyes and seen what happens when women stand up for themselves before has he?

His voice is really beginning to..........aghhhhhhhhhhh! I can't say what i want to right now!!!!

Good point by BC, DdM evidence is that the whole of twitter was going for GCC and so in response they were going to send a reply to only a handful of twitter accounts in the expectation that the reply wasn't going to spread all over. It's so inconsistent it gives me a headache.

I suspect DdM has not had a stellar career if this is the biggest communication issue he's faced

Response to AB's tweet - never seen anything like it in his career but didn't bother to look into why it might have happened.

Not just you - there were 318 in the one I was in before lunch, inc counsel - the one with Uncle Tom Cobleigh in.

WomensLandArmy · Today 13:02

In other news, pukey child has managed to retain half a packet of plain crisps and is watching 'The Lorax'. The cub badge is now on the front of the jumper.

This is such an impressive rate of productivity. I can't claim anything like this level to which I can only aspire (once this ET is over!)

For several years I tuned into R4 just before 8am to listen to the weather. The weather report would start, then finish, without my having heard a word of it. DDM is sliding off my brain a bit like this. So thank you to people here who are managing to report on what is happening.

Text too faint, new one for the bingo card?

And today's award for going above and beyond goes to........IdisagreeMrHochhauser

I wonder if at some point way WAAAAY before today, AH took look at all the material and said guys I really think settling is the way forward.

Very good point, clearly a Schrodinger's tweet.

So the opposite views to Stonewall's aren't the views of Garden Court - is that what he's saying? What are Stonewall Diversity Champion Garden Court's views then?

Then he said that they were just saying that Allison was expressing her personal views and not those of GCC, but you'd think if that's what they were saying that's what they would have said. But then again, I'm not the one getting big money for being a communications go-to-guy...

None so blind as those who will not see. It was unprecedented because the movement is an astroturfed, unhinged extremist movement. That’s why you’d never seen anything like it, Dave.

Ddm smirking there does he think he's got one over on Ben

DdM re the 'Twitterstorm', says he had never seen anything like that before in my career.

Would love to know what he thinks of, and is doing about, the present Twittertyphoon.

Can’t recall DRINK!

Finally caught up, thanks for the commentary everyone!

I might be acquainted with Uncle Tom 😏

Poor DdM he's burnt his bridges with the TRAs by saying he has some sympathy with Allison. And the Mumsnet vipers don't like him. Maybe he has a cat who is very fond of him

Can't believe he doesn't understand how 'reply' works on twitter.