From TT
JR - what did you say
EP - I said I was sorry this upsetting thing had happened to her, she needed to go home to rest, it was end of shift, I may have signposted her to other support, and I said I would be in touch with her supervisor. I wasn't sure about next steps if there was a process to report or complain but the best thing was to go home and rest and be with family. I also said should write a factual account at some point.
JR - DU's email to KS, ccd to you, DU's account of convo with you, can you check the second sentence, had a good if there was a process to report or complain but the best thing was to go home and rest and be with family. I also said should write a factual account at some point.
JR - DU's email to KS, ccd to you, DU's account of convo with you, can you check the second sentence, had a good convo about my right to use the CR, and next steps.
EP - and I signposted to support
JR - what happened next
EP - I said we should leave the hospital together, so that DU could get to car and go home safely,
JR - why the right thing to do, to leave hosp together
EP - DU feeling quite threatened at that point, I thought it was the right thing to do to be by side in case something happened however unlikely, I was the consultant, it was my job to look after people
Fifer : Safety? I heard thon Doctor went tae Madras, so mebbe a wee bit feart fae real Fifers, would have been better gettin sent tae Auchmuty if ye ask me.
JR - how long did convo last
EP - about 30 minutes
JR - now going to look at emails following that day, email from you just after midnight Xmas day, had a catch up - KS and ED, where were you when you sent this
EP - probably in my car
JR - why KS and ED
EP - KS is DU's supervisor, and
ED is charge nurse
JR - you said to DU if ever happened again to let a senior person know why did you say that
EP - everyone wants to feel safe and respected at work, its a dept of 200+people, and line manager not always available, so a senior person would be a consultant
JR - seq of email - DU emails KS, you. KS emails DU copying you in, what did you make of that.
EP - that's what I would expect KS to do
JR - she mentions you, says that EP might join us as well for convo, did that happen
EP - I don't recall being in that meeting with them, all the consultants share an office I was on a clinical shift with them, but I don't recall that meeting although it was possible I was with them.
JR - email from ED, replying to your email, says that what was described was totally unacceptable.
EP - that was her opinion of what I reported, I didn't make any other assessment
JR - KS email to Fife ED consultants, does this include you
EP - yes
JR - did you see this at the time
EP - yes
JR - refresh your memory on what it says, want to ask you 2 question, 1st, what is your opinion on KS action on sending email to consultants
EP - it's a tricky and sensitive thing, she would be sharing it so that we were aware that DU's shifts might be changed and DU might be a little bit upset at work, trying to make the assessment between how much you share and tell the group but as the seniors in this dept we had be aware and DU might be a little bit more sensitive at work. It's difficult to figure out what to say, she wanted to give the facts and let us know the situations.
JR - why would the seniors need to know about Beth's shifts changing and why more sensitive at work
Fifer : JR's had the nod fae the high heidyins. Thon Kate's gettin blaimt, clear as day. She hasnae got that memo. She'll need tae catch up.