NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #9

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on Thursday 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse
Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2
Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3
Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4
Thread 5: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269149-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-5
Thread 6: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269635-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-6
Thread 7: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5270365-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-7
Thread 8: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271511-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-8

NC: the encounter ends at a time of your choosing once you are satisfied that you've achieved dominance over her.

This is the apex of gender ideology, right here. A middle class white man confidently asserting that everyone thinks he's a woman and that he and his wife experience homophobia. And stating under oath, as a medical doctor, that biological sex is meaningless. And smirking whilst he does so.

I'm waiting for the juxtaposition of the weepy flower who had to be helped to her carriage car, and this kick-ass champion of the trans community who thinks he can out-talk NC.

DU - I tried to deescalate the situation throughout

Except by fucking leaving the room!!!!

It's brown if you have a certain type of colour blindness, therefore all grass is brown. Or something.

She could have just shut up.

She could just have left.

Does he not know that SP was experiencing period flooding, or not know what that means? She couldn't leave.

It's so annoying. If sex is complicated, and there aren't only two sexes, how can you transition from one to the other?

I know, we've moved on from that, but it's still annoying me.

Francis Urquhart, and yes.

It's ALL dominance!

💯

DU It's not about dominance, it's about understanding .

That's the word!

I just wasn't sure I could use it without being deleted.

Surely a fitness to practice review needs to be called given his statements re biological sex?

@miIIicant have you removed the ‘mail to’ and the / at the end?

You need the email address bit not the rubbish around it.

Was at work this morning and been catching up since I got in, just got to the beginning of this thread!

What a magnificent exposure of trans activist rhetoric laid out for all to see as the coercive controlling nonsense it is. NC got Upton to come out with the entire TRA script. I hope as many people as possible see this as a perfect illustration of how even intelligent professionals (a doctor!) can be utterly brainwashed.

i am finding this seriously uncomfortable. God he is insufferable

Hes incapable of giving a straight answer to anything.

Oh god he is so fucking patronising

Oh we understand you, DU, we do.

The arrogance, the arrogance....

I am not a legal, can someone please reassure me that NC will pull this back, it doesn't feel to me like this going well... Why is she not challenging DR U more?

Total obliviousness to privilege and power in every way.

You smug bastard.

So combative. How does anyone put up with him?

DUIs much more prickly / brittle when asked about the actual incident than when making ideological TWAW arguments.

I think the only thing he's this whole time conceded is his height.