Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 11

[ickky]

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.
You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Thread 10 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553754-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-10

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)

To come?

Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, to continue on 25th May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge.
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing

How about 'we have received a number of complaints and are investigating them.' Not naming AB, not in reply to any specific tweets.

This is what I don't understand. Surely you would say. Cannot comment on an individual basis but our policy is etc.

Still not great, but better than announcing to the world you were having an investigation into one of your employees.

Place mark - thanks for new thread 🙏

Thanks @ickky et al

Sterling work on the last thread.

Exactly. LD suggested something along the lines of GCC having no position on LGBA and supporting the right of members to have political views and to express them.

Aw, that was a nice bonus.

End of BC's questions. IO and RMW are getting money for old rope.

BC finished with LD. AH to cross.

IO isn't doing much to earn her fee eh?

No finding of any discrimination against LD.

No questions again from IO. IO/RW are on a good gig here.

Stonewall do seem to be slipping out the door.

Probably too busy checking the chat participants to see if they can take offence.

Earning every penny of that old rope...all that tippy tappy typing of page numbers is gruelling, i'll have you know, @TheBiologyStupid

IO/RW are on a good gig here.

Stonewall appear to be slipping out the door.

Ah. It's tea & biccie time, & I'm fading away...

Not enough for the Stonewall Apparatchiks. LGBA? Hang her out today, right now, in public...

It's so ironic that these important, busy human rights lawyers are so busy representing the most oppressed, they've completely missed one of the biggest women's and gay pp' s rights scandals in decades

Forgot that RMW is also the annoying sounds monitor which must be worth £X per hour.

😁 Got their own work creation scheme going there as no-one else can follow the page numbering.

Hello - I followed this tribunal for the first couple of weeks, including Allison's time in the witness box, but life has got in the way since then. My impression was that the case was going to be hard to prove, Allison stood up very well under cross-examination but there wasn't the proverbial smoking gun. I just don't have time to go through all the tribunal tweets threads or the MN ones (I'm so sorry, I know people have been putting in a lot of effort into them) - can anyone give me an idea whether any of the punches have landed in the past 10 days or so?

Imagine if those responsible for compiling the bundles had done it competently Then an on hand guide wouldn't be needed.

Since that noise was MW scrolling, does it suggest that he had a support mouse?🐁

It's hard to tell, but there is a lot of amnesia and busy busy busy from GCC barristers, none of whom looked in depth at any of the reply tweets and all seem to be reading from the same script on there being no gossip and they all only discuss football in their free time. The tribunal will have to make of that what they will.

I'm sure other PP's can comment further.

Is AH right and BC is being naughty asking complicated questions? I'll be honest they don't seem complicated to me but AH seems very annoyed