NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #9

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on Thursday 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse
Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2
Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3
Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4
Thread 5: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269149-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-5
Thread 6: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269635-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-6
Thread 7: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5270365-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-7
Thread 8: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271511-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-8

NC - moving onto Xmas eve 2023

Ooh, he’s going for chirpy now

Did JR just say how many trans people there are in A&E??

I've seen a few of these court cases, it seems to be a trend.

Does anyone else think he's getting flustered/angry?

I'm hearing this in my head:

He Tells Her
He tells her that the Earth is flat -
He knows the facts, and that is that.
In altercations fierce and long
She tries her best to prove him wrong.
But he has learned to argue well.
He calls her arguments unsound
And often asks her not to yell.
She cannot win. He stands his ground.
The planet goes on being round.
Wendy Cope

I’d be a shite barrister. I’d just have told him he is a man and then quoted Blackadder.

I'm guessing that's a legal argument so won't be put to BU.

You need to email to request access. Only the ET service is allowed to share that with you.

Is he outing someone against their will/without their knowledge in a very public setting?

"And what is a trans person, DU?"

what do you mean??

I cheered yesterday when the times put a story up that Labour have shelved plans to make gender change easier. There are some grown ups, it would seem.

At least I now know why my terrier's recall is so dodgy. I must have one of those nebulous whistles.

Male rage at being constantly referred to as a man.

The trouble is gender ideology means women have to or they lose jobs

Get rid of gender ideology

Yes, but he won't have heard that SP has a lesbian daughter and partner.

JR was caught out by that

@miIIicant - sharing of the pin for the proceedings is not allowed

How does he know then?

Yes, the email link isn't working. Can someone please confirm what it is.

I e emailed and not had a link or pin.

The first time in years he's come up against a person he can't bully into agreeing with him.

Almost like he can Tell the difference between the sexes

Also he told her there was a process to follow and that she should follow it. He didn’t suggest a coffee and chat to discuss it all

He confirms he's 6 foot tall