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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 10

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ickky · 21/05/2022 10:36

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)

To come?
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, to continue on 25th May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge.
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing

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TopKnotch · 23/05/2022 15:46

Details details details

I can't remember anything I'm asked questions about

Details details details

I can't recall what you're asking me about

Clymene · 23/05/2022 15:46

Leveraging the death of a child to make a point is odious behaviour.

Gabcsika · 23/05/2022 15:46

The straight men: "We talked about football."

The gay men: "We talked about drag race and Mariah Carey".

Yeah yeah. Likely.

nauticant · 23/05/2022 15:46

That was an extremely gratuitous reference to "the murder of a 7 year old child" in order for SC to demonstrate whatever it was about himself.

Zeugma · 23/05/2022 15:46

Michelle was too busy commuting. Bingo!

dworky · 23/05/2022 15:47

Despicable

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 23/05/2022 15:47

Gabcsika · 23/05/2022 15:46

The straight men: "We talked about football."

The gay men: "We talked about drag race and Mariah Carey".

Yeah yeah. Likely.

😂😂😂

This bit is going in the film.

FingonTheValiant · 23/05/2022 15:47

FOOTBALL 😂😂

ifIwerenotanandroid · 23/05/2022 15:47

BINGO!

Pyjamagame · 23/05/2022 15:48

Football! HOUSE for me.

ickky · 23/05/2022 15:48

Back to the football gossip.

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IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 23/05/2022 15:48

Ah see the gay men talk about football too.

FacebookPhotos · 23/05/2022 15:48

More football 🙄

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 23/05/2022 15:48

Ah, football again (when chatting to the clerks)

MythicalReasonableTwitterUser · 23/05/2022 15:48

We all saw the football ref coming from a mile away, didn't we

chilling19 · 23/05/2022 15:48

It is not feasible that he and the Stonewall bod would not have spoken about this. Just ridiculous.

TheBiologyStupid · 23/05/2022 15:48

Talks about footie to the clerks...!

Ameanstreakamilewide · 23/05/2022 15:48

SC: Never discussed the Claimant on that sort of scale.

So, what sorta scale, then, Stevie-boy??

Chrysanthemum5 · 23/05/2022 15:48

Talking about football again - what is one of the clerks doesn't like football

MythicalReasonableTwitterUser · 23/05/2022 15:48

epic crossposting going on in these threads

TopKnotch · 23/05/2022 15:48

nauticant · Today 15:46

That was an extremely gratuitous reference to "the murder of a 7 year old child" in order for SC to demonstrate whatever it was about himself.

The way he said it too.....

Ameanstreakamilewide · 23/05/2022 15:49

I thought the same, nauticant...mentioning that case was poor behaviour.

CriticalCondition · 23/05/2022 15:49

He throws in a joke about Spurs with the clerks but doesn't talk about anything else.
Not even Drag Race or Mariah Carey it seems.

InvisibleDragon · 23/05/2022 15:50

This class-based stereotyping around talking to the clerks about football is quite distasteful too.

Chrysanthemum5 · 23/05/2022 15:50

CriticalCondition · 23/05/2022 15:49

He throws in a joke about Spurs with the clerks but doesn't talk about anything else.
Not even Drag Race or Mariah Carey it seems.

Drag race and Mariah Carey are for his gay friends. Football with the clerks (presumably he knows their sexuality?) and he doesn't stick to stereotypes at all

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