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Does Carole Middleton in some way out rank Camilla as the grandma of the future king ?

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Inthesummertimewhen · 18/06/2026 22:50

Seeing them together today ,it stuck me Camilla is not blood related to the royals and now carols blood flows through our future kings veins ? Obviously Camilla is queen and currently technically outranks her but does she in some way out rank her ??

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CathyorClaire · 21/06/2026 21:37

'Quite a lot' of threads?

UserNineNine · 21/06/2026 21:39

Valpolichella · 21/06/2026 21:05

Wasn’t Camilla also a “commoner”? Before her elevation by marriage? Same as Kate?

Technically but Camilla was always posh and was moving in the same circles as the royal family. Her granddad was a Baron I seem to remember. There will have been country houses, balls, horses, shooting parties and all that jazz in her childhood. Maybe she was a debutant.

MissFenellaPrism · 21/06/2026 21:40

UserNineNine · 21/06/2026 21:39

Technically but Camilla was always posh and was moving in the same circles as the royal family. Her granddad was a Baron I seem to remember. There will have been country houses, balls, horses, shooting parties and all that jazz in her childhood. Maybe she was a debutant.

She was, true. However, she had no title, so was a commoner.

MissFenellaPrism · 21/06/2026 21:41

WimpoleHat · 21/06/2026 21:36

Exactly! But at that point, “The Queen” will refer to Catherine, whereas Queen Camilla will always be officially HM Queen Camilla/. Look at HM Queen Mary and HM Queen Alexandra. The Queen Mother title was (as pp have said) to avoid the confusion over two Elizabeths.

Yes, absolutely. There will be two Queens. As you rightly say, there had to be a distinction between the two Elizabeths.

MissFenellaPrism · 21/06/2026 21:43

Fascinating stuff! Thanks to all the History buffs on here. Plus I now know who Jacquetta of Luxembourg was!

UserNineNine · 21/06/2026 21:50

MissFenellaPrism · 21/06/2026 21:40

She was, true. However, she had no title, so was a commoner.

Which is why I started the sentence with the word ‘technically’.

CarolinaInTheMorning · 21/06/2026 21:53

MissFenellaPrism · 21/06/2026 21:30

Good point - that's the only one I can think of, too.

There is also Catherine of Braganza, the widow of Charles II. She was not related to his successor James II.

Housewife2010 · 22/06/2026 06:25

FirstNationsEnglish · 21/06/2026 19:18

Does Carole Middleton in some way out rank Camilla as the grandma of the future king ?

Camilla is not the children's grandma, she is their step-grandmother, and only that due to the fact she was in an adulterous affair with their grandfather ... which indirectly led to the premature death of their other 'blood' grandmother.

Regarding royalty, then of course Camilla 'outranks' Carole as Carole is only affiliated to royalty by marriage. However in the grandmother stakes, Carole is queen.

Ridiculous. Camilla had nothing to do with Diana's death. Did she stop her wearing her seatbelt?

FirstNationsEnglish · 22/06/2026 06:32

Housewife2010 · 22/06/2026 06:25

Ridiculous. Camilla had nothing to do with Diana's death. Did she stop her wearing her seatbelt?

I think you missed the word ‘indirectly’ HTH

Housewife2010 · 22/06/2026 06:40

FirstNationsEnglish · 22/06/2026 06:32

I think you missed the word ‘indirectly’ HTH

Even "indirectly" Camilla can't be blamed.

Prombles · 22/06/2026 07:40

MissFenellaPrism · 21/06/2026 21:35

Thanks, June! I just couldn't be arsed.
I remember there was one from an American as well.

It was also speculated that Charles would be the last monarch or that on the death of QEII the line would 'skip' Charles and go straight to William.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4367600-to-think-the-monarchy-will-end-at-charles?

To think the monarchy will end at Charles? | Mumsnet

I've just noticed a lot of republican talk recently (prompted by the other thread on the earth shot prize, also generally twitter and recent republica...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4367600-to-think-the-monarchy-will-end-at-charles

Housewife2010 · 22/06/2026 07:58

Prombles · 22/06/2026 07:40

It was also speculated that Charles would be the last monarch or that on the death of QEII the line would 'skip' Charles and go straight to William.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4367600-to-think-the-monarchy-will-end-at-charles?

After Charles I think the Crown will go straight to the Middletons. 🤣

CurlewKate · 24/06/2026 06:26

Housewife2010 · 22/06/2026 06:25

Ridiculous. Camilla had nothing to do with Diana's death. Did she stop her wearing her seatbelt?

However, it would be quite understandable if, in purely human terms, William found it a little difficult to….warm to her. To put it mildly.

SleepingStandingUp · 24/06/2026 12:18

Well, I ntbe olden days the AI mwa9to get your bloodline on the throne, so technically Carol has succeeded at that, daughter on the throne and then their bloodline going forward.

But of course that quite sensibly carries no weight, a fact I'm sure Carole is aware of

CathyorClaire · 24/06/2026 20:26

Housewife2010 · 22/06/2026 07:58

After Charles I think the Crown will go straight to the Middletons. 🤣

Why not?

They're on the same page as the royals when it comes to the littles who underwrite them.

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