Does Carole Middleton in some way out rank Camilla as the grandma of the future king ?

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Seeing them together today ,it stuck me Camilla is not blood related to the royals and now carols blood flows through our future kings veins ? Obviously Camilla is queen and currently technically outranks her but does she in some way out rank her ??

No. Camilla is the queen consort, she outranks everyone except the king.

Where do people get these ideas?!

Carole isn’t a member of the royal
family and Camilla is the Queen.

No, not at present.

In a future world in which George is king, Charles is dead but Camilla and Carole are both alive I don't know the answer.

Camilla would be dowager queen, Carole is not a royal.

In what way? If it’s who would be visited first on Mother's day - yes Carole would outrank Camilla.

Show us your working OP. Unless of course you’re just here for the engagement.

Is Carole’s blood extra special ?

Camilla would still be HM Queen Camilla. She would rank in the same way as the Queen Mary did when QEII became Queen.

Carole won’t ever have a royal ranking. She’ll have invitations as MIL/Mum/Granny but in terms of official events like a coronation or other state event Camilla would still be one of the most senior ranking royals as a Dowager Queen.

Yes, of course. Carole Middleton is George’s actual biological grandmother. His blood relative. A source of his DNA. Camilla is a woman to whom his grandfather happens to be married.

She wouldn’t outrank her but in terms of priorities, I imagine she would come before Camilla for Kate, William & the DCs.

I understand why you would ask the question and it’s quite thought provoking.
I wonder if, perhaps, in olden days it would have carried more weight. Especially since a provision was made to allow a future king to marry a divorcee, who didn’t have direct blood links with the future, King William.
I agree, it’s food for thought

This is a bit odd … carol is the grandma and Camilla is the step grandma. With regard to the ‘firm’ carol isn’t part of that, Camilla is … no ranking involved

I think you might be quite confused about the monarchy.

Camilla will either be the dowager queen (unlikely to be around)

Carole will be the King's grandma

And Camilla would be about 120 years old.

Certainly not in public

Who cares? Nobody outranks anyone in my world

Agreed - I wasn’t meaning in public but in terms of personal priorities.

And even if they wanted to have Carole there all the time in public they won’t be able to.

If they started replacing HM Queen Camilla with Mrs Carole Middleton at events then they are basically inviting people to say “well, why can’t Mr Robert Smith replace HM King William/George?” or “why can’t Dr Mary Jones give this speech instead of HM King/Queen whoever”

Royal rank doesn’t get conferred backwards up the bloodline to ancestors, only downwards to descendants. Can you honestly not work that out from how the royal family has worked in your own lifetime? Surely you’re old enough to to remember the Queen Mother?

Carole Middleton will share DNA with a future king, but that would have been the same for eg Diana’s parents - and of course they had no royal titles or rank, just their own aristocratic credentials gained via inheritance from their own ancestors.

Obviously Camilla is queen and currently technically outranks her

That’s Queen with a capital Q and there’s no “technically” about it.

Camilla will always out-rank Carole. She's The Queen currently, and will always be a Queen even once Charles has passed (assuming she outlives him).

The more interesting question, and what I think you're actually trying to unpack, is who has/will have more influence over the future Kings. I think there's a much stronger argument for Carole there.

When I hear reports about the queen I always think of Elizabeth 2nd. Camilla is just who Charles is married to but is completely unrelated to the rest of the royal family. Presumably although she outranks others even when Charles is dead, her children and grandchildren remain irrelevant.

Neither, as they are not George's mother. Mother's day is about your own mother.