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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) I have noticed here

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heresyandwitchcraft · 14/08/2018 17:21

Hello! Are you new? I am still pretty new, myself. Mumsnet can be hard to navigate.
Here are some commonly asked questions I’ve seen asked on the feminist board, with links to threads. Please have a look at these, as many of the regular posters will have likely covered your question in-depth before. I am hoping they don't mind me creating another basic FAQ, that can hopefully be added-to. Remember that this board is not a monolith (even though it might appear to be such), although the majority of posters do seem to have a clearly gender-critical slant, where feminism is centered around biological females. Centering females is also known as radical feminism - because the radical part refers to going back to the "root" of female oppression (which in such feminist theory is the female body).
These FAQs will be heavily related to the "transgender debate" because that is a hot topic right now.

What is the definition of "trans" that is typically used in this forum?
It is Stonewall's:
An umbrella term to describe people whose gender is not the same as, or does not sit comfortably with, the sex they were assigned at birth.
Trans people may describe themselves using one or more of a wide variety of terms, including (but not limited to) transgender, transsexual, gender-queer (GQ), gender-fluid, non-binary, gender-variant, crossdresser, genderless, agender, nongender, third gender, two-spirit, bi-gender, trans man, trans woman,trans masculine, trans feminine and neutrois.
www.stonewall.org.uk/help-advice/glossary-terms#t

You will notice that it does not specify only individuals who have gender dysphoria (discomfort with their own body/sex), but includes cross-dressers and those whose feelings are fluid. This is different from the classical term "transsexual," which refers to people with a medical condition named "gender dysphoria," which can only be alleviated by permanently inhabiting the social role of the opposite sex and potentially undergoing medication and surgery in order to achieve this. So the current trans umbrella has been significantly widened and now includes people who have no discomfort with their bodies but simply "identify as" another gender.

It is worth remembering that the definition of "transitioning" now is also very loose. Stonewall defines it like this:
The steps a trans person may take to live in the gender with which they identify. Each person’s transition will involve different things. For some this involves medical intervention, such as hormone therapy and surgeries, but not all trans people want or are able to have this. Transitioning also might involve things such as telling friends and family, dressing differently and changing official documents.

So there is no set definition for transitioning. This could be as simple as wearing a different set of clothes, changing one's name or pronoun.

Under these definitions, the following people are to be considered fully women, just like any female:
Danielle Muscato:
www.daniellemuscato.com/
Ibi-Pippi Hedegaard:

Alex Drummond (who identifies as Lesbian and is on the Trans advisory panel of Stonewall): www.stonewall.org.uk/trans-advisory-group www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3275432-Why-does-Stonewalls-definition-of-Transgender-trump-all-others-and-does-it-really

Material that serves a useful place to start to understand the gender-critical feminist perspective:
Rebecca Reilly-Cooper
sexandgenderintro.com/
Kathleen Stock
medium.com/@kathleenstock
Magdalen Berns
www.youtube.com/channel/UCvTTakI97sQ4SkMnsH8r0qQ
SAGES Fact-sheet
sages.org.uk/publications/sages-factsheet.html

What is up with the “transgender debate,” why are feminists protesting?
START HERE: “Break it down for me” is a very good introduction (best I have seen) with plenty of links to other beginner’s resources
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me
A short and snappy summary by Datun
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3175666-Want-to-know-why-women-are-livid-trans-thread?pg=1
“A Beginners guide to the transgender debate” is EXCELLENT, with signposting to a whole bunch of relevant material covering specific subjects (I have basically shamelessly ripped off that post - sorry DJ)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3246322-A-Beginners-Guide-to-the-Transgender-Debate-A-Signpost-to-Useful-Mumsnet-Threads?pg=1

What are some female-rights organisations that are looking into this issue?
fairplayforwomen.com/
womansplaceuk.org/
manfridayuk.org/

“Trans women are women”? Why is self-ID into the category “woman” so troublesome for some feminists?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3122473--Transwomen-are-women
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3170708-If-youre-pro-Self-ID-for-trans-people-please-could-you-explain-it-to-me?pg=1
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3297719-self-ID-sinnlos

Why do women care about the definition of woman?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3296831-Can-we-talk-about-the-mental-impact-of-being-told-the-definition-of-woman-is-changing

People with cervixes – why are women protesting against dropping the word “woman” to refer to female anatomy in public health?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3277806-Cancer-Research-anyone-with-a-cervix

What’s the issue with “cis”?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3323848-Could-we-reclaim-cis

Why is “TERF” considered a slur?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3330245-Abuse-of-GC-women-on-twitter-be-warned-graphic-disturbing
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3330285-Woke-guy-that-did-that-terfs-are-trash-song-accused-of-sex-crimes
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3040706-TERF-isnt-just-a-slur-its-hate-speech
terfisaslur.com/
The “science of gender identity”?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3331998-The-science-of-transgender-gender-identity?pg=1

A discussion on misgendering:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3334275-Misgendering

Why is the argument “trans women are women, just like black women” considered to be so offensive?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3326391-Why-do-TRAs-keep-using-black-women-when-defending-TWAW

“Don’t most feminists support trans people?”
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3327679-vast-majority-of-feminists-trans
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3327466-People-apparently-support-trans?pg=1&messages=25

What about intersex?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3305291-Trans-activsims-appropriation-of-intersex

Why the fixation on toilets?
A perennial favourite. This subject has been discussed multiple times.
Here are some relevant threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3330297-Museum-of-London-why-female-only-toilets-were-so-important
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3322488-GRC-and-Toilets?pg=1
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3329936-teen-films-girl-in-toilet

What about women’s prisons?
Fair Play for Women: fairplayforwomen.com/prisons/

Recent threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3334473-BBC-reality-check-on-trans-prisoners
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3309758-This-never-happens-male-offenders-in-female-prisons

What about women’s shelters?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3158576-Women-s-Aid-considers-employing-self-declared-transwomen-i-e-men-in-womens-shelters
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3325247-Stonewall-report-into-domestic-and-violent-services

What about transgender children?
The first port of call should be:
gids.nhs.uk/
A gender-critical parent view is represented by:
www.transgendertrend.com/

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3265524-Transgender-Trend-Crowdfunder-suspended?pg=1
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3317880-Parents-who-wont-affirm-8-yr-old-gender-change-being-referred-to-social-services
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3280972-Rapid-Onset-of-Gender-Dysphoria-in-Adolescents-and-Young-Adults-a-Descriptive-Study
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3318996-Excellent-counter-view-to-ROGD

Why are lesbians protesting?
Magdalen on "Are Genital Preferences Transphobic?"

Trans activism and the lesbian community www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3146166-Transactivism-and-the-lesbian-community

London Pride 2018 protests: Get the L Out
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301033-Get-the-L-Out-Statement-by-the-lesbian-protesters-at-Pride-London

An introduction to the “cotton ceiling”
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3294339-cotton-ceiling-evidence-thread

What about women’s sports?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3324477-Transwomen-in-sport-I-need-sources-re-their-advantage

What's going on with the Girl Guides?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2832114-This-puts-me-off-Girl-Guides
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3314566-another-girlguiding-update

What is the difference between transsexuals and the current understanding of transgender ideology? Why are some trans people against the ideas being espoused by some trans activists?
Rose of Dawn
www.youtube.com/user/AshleeK9
Debbie Hayton
debbiehayton.wordpress.com/
Miranda Yardley
mirandayardley.com/en/

What are the protected categories in the Equality Act?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3327711-Has-Transgender-replaced-Gender-Reassignment-in-protected-characteristics-of-Equality-Act

Why is self-ID/reform of the Gender Recognition Act considered controversial?
fairplayforwomen.com/full_guide/
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3188687-impact-of-self-id-on-equality-act
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3198512-Help-me-be-clear-about-the-GRA-Equality-Act-Exemptions

What can I do if I am concerned about this issue?
Links to consultations
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3318003-Bringing-your-MUST-DO-WOMENS-RIGHTS-consultations-together-with-links-and-timelines-thread
Other actions
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3329362-Get-offline

Why are women protesting self-identifying trans women taking places on all-women’s shortlists?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3136891-Transwomen-should-be-considered-for-all-women-shortlist-Guardian
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3329447-People-Who-Oppose-Trans-Rights-Have-No-Place-In-Labour-Says-The-First-LGBT-Mayoral-Adviser?pg=1

How has the gender debate evolved, from the gender-critical perspective?
This “Greatest hits” thread is illustrative
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3318916-Gender-Critical-Greatest-Hits
Also this:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3317032-Using-women-as-human-shields
And a discussion around the silencing of gender-critical voices
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3273966-Twitter-banning-accounts-that-deadname-Ian-Huntley-is-not-using-his-female-name-hate-speech-now
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3262965-Good-article-today-BBC-on-the-twitter-ban-on-womens-free-speech-on-trans-issues?pg=1

“Feminism is about equality” or the related “Is feminism for men?”
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3331306-Feminism-is-equality
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3332894-Can-a-man-teach-feminism

Are we evil?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301684-Are-we-the-baddies

Are you alone in your gender-critical thoughts?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3291425-Gender-Critical-Lurkers
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3277047-I-am-S-p-a-r-t-a-c-u-s

Are you affected by marital difficulties related to trans issues?
You’re not alone
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3101834-trans-widows-escape-committee

Who is Jess Bradley and why is this individual important?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3320513-Jess-Bradley-first-transgender-student-officer-suspended-after-flashing-photos
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3321764-Jess-Bradley-suspended-Part-II
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3325623-Jess-Bradley-a-government-advisor-on-womens-rights-suspended-by-NUS-over-indecent-blog-Part-iii
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3323623-Who-is-really-funding-Jess-Bradleys-defence

What are some of the theories about the funding of the trans activist movement?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3328210-Follow-the-money-who-is-funding-the-US-transborg

Why is the feminist board so careful?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3321127-public-service-announcement

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heresyandwitchcraft · 18/08/2018 09:27

Agreed Smile, diplomatically going with the title of the video. In my view, the "genderqueer" part helps inform you where Contra is philosophically.

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Ereshkigal · 18/08/2018 09:15

That debate is interesting, but I wouldn't call Contrapoints a "feminist" of any sort however Contrapoints may choose to present themselves. Any more than say Lily Madigan is. Sorry, as you were!

heresyandwitchcraft · 18/08/2018 09:03

Is there a place where I can find more "discussions" with the "other side"?
Probably this subreddit is a good place to spend some time
www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/
If you want to watch common arguments, this video of a politically right-leaning tran woman debating a genderqueer feminist (who now also identifies as a trans woman) is actually quite interesting and hits many familiar notes (despite everyone saying T*FS are trash, even though the concerns raised are similar to many on this board):

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heresyandwitchcraft · 17/08/2018 22:38

Can we talk about detransitioners?
Detransitioners are individuals who previously were trans, but later started identifying with their birth sex.
I regret transitioning:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2845270-I-regret-transitioning
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3184030-De-transing
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3260738-the-physical-side-of-de-transitioning-possible-trigger-warning
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3118932-Detransitioning

Threads on a researcher who was prevented from looking in to this subject!
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3042941-Gender-surgery-regret-Academic-blocked-from-researching-it
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3129659-Update-from-James-Caspian-on-his-case-against-Bath-Spa-University-to-be-allowed-to-research-detransitioners

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heresyandwitchcraft · 17/08/2018 19:51

This study shows us that transitioning helps trans people
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3264356-Huge-meta-study-finds-that-transition-helps-trans-people?pg=1&messages=25

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heresyandwitchcraft · 17/08/2018 15:37

Can you all just lay off trans people?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3164688-Can-you-all-just-lay-off-trans-people

Would you back self-ID if?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3282760-would-you-back-self-id-if

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heresyandwitchcraft · 17/08/2018 12:46

I am Spartacus?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/2716595-TransAgenda-BullShit-The-I-am-Spartacus-Thread

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R0wantrees · 17/08/2018 12:20

Can we talk about autogynephilia?
TRANS: Exploring Gender Identity and Gender Dysphoria (Pulling the Trigger)
See introductory chapters by Dr Az Hakeem gender specialist.
published 2018
www.amazon.co.uk/TRANS-Exploring-Identity-Dysphoria-Pulling-ebook/dp/B079NKJ22B?tag=mumsnetforum-21

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R0wantrees · 17/08/2018 09:04

Lisa Muggeridge has a recorded a number of videos, all worth watching:
www.youtube.com/channel/UC9c2nFwyCdfgBG8BhFys3-A/videos

heresyandwitchcraft · 16/08/2018 21:55

Who is Lisa Muggeridge?
A woman suspended by Twitter, with incisive analyses on many feminist issues. Quote her with extreme caution on this forum.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3284251-Lisa-Muggeridge-Suspended-by-Twitter-and-Quoting-her-breaches-MN-Guidelines
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3296496-Lisa-Muggeridge-new-video-channel

What resources have previous posters recommended?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3287977-Long-term-members-of-FWR-if-youre-leaving-might-you-choose-a-thread-or-resource-before-you-go-please

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UndercoverGC · 16/08/2018 21:29

Thanks very much for the podcast recommendations. Interesting, educational, and I can listen whilst washing up.

Ereshkigal · 16/08/2018 21:02

What does the term "Cotton Ceiling" mean? Isn't it just a myth that lesbians are expected to consider males as sex partners?

"Cotton Ceiling" evidence thread
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3294339-cotton-ceiling-evidence-thread

R0wantrees · 16/08/2018 21:02

heresy You're doing something amazing here. I had exactly the same response as yours, that the amount of knowledge here was humbling. I only started reading to understand earlier this year and so have been linking the things I thought others might find interesting or useful.

I have some articles and links which I think may be significant so will try to sit down in coming days and add them to your thread.
Thank you again Flowers

Stickerladiesoftheworldunite · 16/08/2018 20:56

Wow!!! You are all incredible thanks Wine

heresyandwitchcraft · 16/08/2018 20:43

On that note

Are there others within the LGBTQ+ community who have concerns about trans activism?
This essay and thread are instructive
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3337410-Artistic-Director-of-Queer-Up-North-speaks-out-on-trans-activism-Stonewall-and-womens-rights?pg=1

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heresyandwitchcraft · 16/08/2018 20:36

R0wantrees
Not at all, you are the expert in this: I've been trying to learning from you! In fact, I am really hoping this thread can be as collaborative an effort as possible. The idea I thought was that it could act as a "directory" of sorts. I've just kept adding links as it's become quite fun, the amount of knowledge in the ongoing conversations on this board is truly humbling.

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R0wantrees · 16/08/2018 20:26

heresyandwitchcraft Hope you don't mind me chipping in? Smile I had just linked those two threads so thought they were worth pasting here.

Theinconstantgardener · 16/08/2018 19:43

heresyandwitchcraft
Just caught up with this thread. Thanks so much it must have taken you ages. Also Rowantrees of course. I wish there was someway to keep this info. Its invaluable.

heresyandwitchcraft · 16/08/2018 19:31

Thanks R0wan Smile

Why has the trans lobby been so successful?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3241837-Why-has-the-trans-lobby-been-so-successful

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