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City of London Corporation consultation is out (this covers Hampstead Ponds)

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SwearyG Thu 26-Jul-18 10:20:47

And it's awful

No mention of sex, no mention of impact on any stakeholders, all leading questions, and horrible clear intention to filter.

This will affect the wonderful space at Hampstead Ponds so I urge you all to complete it. I will be speaking to the Corporation about its clear bias and lack of adherence to guidelines.

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UpstartCrow Thu 26-Jul-18 10:23:42

Do we have to live in London to fill it in?

SwearyG Thu 26-Jul-18 10:28:13

No you can fill it in as a user of the services or as someone who doesn't live/work/use services but then you have to give a reason as to why you're interested...

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enoughisenough12 Thu 26-Jul-18 10:38:41

I'm sure R0wantrees will be long shortly with detailed informations but one reason for the nature of the questionnaire may be as a result of the involvement of a City of London official mentioned on this thread by R0wantrees:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3316098-Childrens-Convenor-Elected-Councillor-calls-women-cunts-on-Twitter-rants

SwearyG Thu 26-Jul-18 10:46:24

The very chap whose name is on it - I cannot see how he can be unbiased and fair in his role as chair, particularly given the nature of the questions. It is not good.

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sunshineWoman Thu 26-Jul-18 10:50:46

I want to respond but also need help with formulating the responses. It's even worse than the Scottish one. Blah.

Ereshkigal Thu 26-Jul-18 10:51:31

Abuse of public consultations to steamroller unpopular things through makes my blood boil, having worked on one.

Terrorbird Thu 26-Jul-18 10:55:55

I’ve filled it in but now want to send it to Dh. The link just keeps sending me back to my completed questionnaire though. How do I send him a link he can fill in? Thanks

Ereshkigal Thu 26-Jul-18 11:02:22

Send him a link to the thread and he can use Sweary's link in the OP.

Nightmanagerfan Thu 26-Jul-18 11:03:06

Thank you. Just filled it in and gave lots of comments on the conflation of gender with “sex”. Made all the points re same sex spaces and issues with self-ID

Ereshkigal Thu 26-Jul-18 11:09:35

That Lord is a nasty misogynistic piece of work. He is clearly not impartial and should not be running this consultation.

MinesAWhitMagnumPlease Thu 26-Jul-18 11:09:51

twitter.com/edwardlord/status/1020622342974734336
He says he wants to end misogyny......no outright guffawing please !

SunsetBeetch Thu 26-Jul-18 11:34:39

He's getting a lot of stick in the replies to that tweet. What a silly man.

Ereshkigal Thu 26-Jul-18 11:35:06

And no, you're not a fucking feminist, bro. People may have told you it's an identity you can put on while actively undermining women's rights. They are wrong.

MinesAWhitMagnumPlease Thu 26-Jul-18 11:41:25

If you want to complain about the lack of independence in having EL leading on this for the Corporation and the inherent bias in the questionnaire
[[ democracy.cityoflondon.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=401 this man]] is responsible for promoting the values of the Corporation, and discipline & integrity in Councillors.

littlbrowndog Thu 26-Jul-18 11:45:50

Funny how it’s all men of a certain age like that guy from Dundee and they get in power
They seem to get a obsession bout trans gender things

Then the women who are the allies see:like women a lot younger

DodoPatrol Thu 26-Jul-18 11:54:22

Completed, and I managed not to say 'Don't be bloody ridiculous' more than once.

PilarTernera Thu 26-Jul-18 11:58:13

How is it possible to fill in the questionnaire, except by repeating 'I do not believe that gender is assigned at birth, I believe that the sex of babies is observed at birth' in answer to everything?

sanluca Thu 26-Jul-18 12:01:56

I filled it in, being in London every now and then for business, but I only got to answer 21 of the 28 questions before getting to the end. Are there extra questions for a certain group?

Knicknackpaddyflak Thu 26-Jul-18 12:04:27

Done. Mentioned women, other vulnerable groups, children and SAFEGUARDING a lot. Sheesh. You'd think they'd have someone with the knowledge of how to do a basic risk assessment and see for themselves where the issues are with what they're suggesting.

Bowlofbabelfish Thu 26-Jul-18 12:04:44

Filled it out with a statement about sex vs gender and safeguarding/religious exclusion/biased questions at every opportunity

Absolutely disgracefully written. How can they get away with such bilge?

WorkingItOutAsIGo Thu 26-Jul-18 12:05:33

Cripes just read up about Edward Lord and his partner Dr Meg-john Barker. They are very clearly not a heterosexual man in a relationship with a heterosexual woman. They are both non-binary and so much more interesting and full of virtue.

And there is no way they should be in charge of this consultation as they cannot possibly be independent. God I wish I was a lawyer and could make a proper complaint about this.

DodoPatrol Thu 26-Jul-18 12:11:53

How is it possible to fill in the questionnaire, except by repeating 'I do not believe that gender is assigned at birth, I believe that the sex of babies is observed at birth' in answer to everything?

Dunno - that's pretty much what I did write!

UpstartCrow Thu 26-Jul-18 12:15:14

I mentioned sex, religion and culture as protected characteristics, and the third space solution.

MorbidMuch Thu 26-Jul-18 12:16:04

Done with many comments outlining the difference between sex and gender, as well as why it is important to preserve single sex spaces.

Now I'm just really cross that something so obviously leading is allowed as a 'consultation' document.

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