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Lisa Muggeridge Suspended by Twitter and Quoting her breaches MN Guidelines

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R0wantrees Wed 20-Jun-18 22:22:20

I posted news that another woman has been suspended by Twitter. This seems likely as a result of targetted mass reports

Lisa Muggeridge comments at

& recently spoke at the Inconvenient Women: We Need to Talk meeting in London.

I posted the quote by Lisa because it concerns me that women are being silenced.

My background is English Literature so my style is to leave a writer's words for others to read for themselves.

There were a number of apparent attempts to derail the thread and so when this happened, I quoted further comment by Lisa Muggeridge. To let her words speak.

I believe in the importance of free speech.

I have many books on my bookshelf, which I am sure may have contentious comments in. I don't though believe that books are dangerous or should be burned.

I also read authors who had serious failings.

I wasn't advised that there was an issue with the OP but understand that within the quoted comment was misgendering.

I felt that it was not for me to edit Lisa Muggeridge's words.

LangCleg Wed 20-Jun-18 22:23:52


spontaneousgiventime Wed 20-Jun-18 22:27:47

I was reading that thread when it went poof. This one likely will too as it's a TAAT - sort of.

FermatsTheorem Wed 20-Jun-18 22:28:57

Agree with your OP in its entirety, R0wan.

Come on, this is getting ridiculous. We're no longer even allowed to reference writers guilty of "wrong think"?

RubyShooFan Wed 20-Jun-18 22:32:21

I stand with you and I stand with Lisa.

This one needs to make the press.

SpartacusAutisticus Wed 20-Jun-18 22:35:25


Terfulike Wed 20-Jun-18 22:35:41

its getting beyond the joke all this

Lysistrataknowsherstuff Wed 20-Jun-18 22:39:42

This is ridiculous. Surely it's obvious to the mods that you're quoting, or are you now supposed to "correct" the original words into the newspeak that we have to use?

pombear Wed 20-Jun-18 22:43:09

Fuck, we're in an interesting place right now.

This is so important, I'm going to risk my (over 13 years here) of no deletions, no warnings.

After 13 years of finding support, humour, comfort, advice, solidarity, disagreement and everything beyond that in this amazing website :-

I'm going there.

This is the stuff that's so heinous, so beyond the pale, so outrageous that it needs to be censored, hidden, trampled on:

Cos, you know, she's a single mum, working class, with a view point on biological sex rights that seems to offend some of those of the class of non-female biological sex who seem to identify so much with the female experience that they need to close her ability to speak down, so their female truth shines through. Solidarity, you fuckers!

(Awaits those of the non-female biological sex to arrive here and tell me why her speaking is wrong and that I am a bigot/should die in a fire/am on the wrong side of history/

pombear Wed 20-Jun-18 22:45:10

Fuckity fuck, fuck, fuck fuck.
And back to calm, rational debate.

R0wantrees Wed 20-Jun-18 22:46:52

I've no idea what the conventions of a TAAT are.

I have only posted here over the last few months.

I have always engaged in good faith and civilly.

LangCleg Wed 20-Jun-18 22:47:41

It pisses me off because I made a bit of an effort with a couple of my posts on that thread.

FermatsTheorem Wed 20-Jun-18 22:47:56

High fives Pombear.

Yes. It is incredibly important to realise who they are silencing - a working class single mother. Who happens to think (correctly) that in a lot of circumstances biological sex matters.

yipyap Wed 20-Jun-18 22:47:58

NC. I was enjoying reading that, especially Lisa's clear voice. Not the derailer though. Every evening these days one sits like a toad on the end of threads.
I hope Wordpress is a safe platform.
Women's cultural artifacts such as these Feminist boards are being destroyed.
A new place for ideas was being spoken about the other day, I will have to find it.

WanderingWavelet Wed 20-Jun-18 22:48:51

I’m sorry to read this. I love Ms Muggeridge’s Twitter feed. She’s straight talking, reasonable and down to Earth. She’s a lesbian - typical TRA targeting.

And why do those men who suddenly find they are really female inside (female brain, or female soul or whatever) - if they want to become women, why do they seem to hate other women so much?

Kettlepotblackagain Wed 20-Jun-18 22:50:57

I was striked for even mentioning her post , let alone linking to it.

I'm seriously in despair at what the fuck is happening.

Rufustheyawningreindeer Wed 20-Jun-18 22:51:06

Im interested to see why you can't quote someone else

What if you were quoting someone so you could disagree with them!

We seem to be allowed to quote desist, disabalist, racist stuff

R0wantrees Wed 20-Jun-18 22:53:21

Lisa Muggeridge comment:
'Famous on Mumsnet'
"Dear Mumsnet, is because the bubble has burst on trans rights activism. We are at the stage of narcissistic abuse, which is what this is, where the dissonance folds in waves. #peaktrans is a one way street and each wave will force a reconstruction in people’s understanding of power, gender, sex, reality of inequality, which coincides with Universal Credit failure, social care failure, child abuse enquiry and other major institutional redefinition which require that understanding of the complex relationship between power, sex, motherhood and inequality you all understand. UK is a tipping point, Canada is ready to go. Most of the institutions I am discussing grew from the ground up, this was their first cycle, that understanding never got to the policy making level before. I checked. Think tanks, oxford, Cambridge, LSE, NONE are aware of the complex interconnected nature of systems you exemplify. You cant abdicate the responsibility for these systems even if you can erode the institution you can only generate crisis, which is what austerity just did. It wasnt deliberate it was reflex, reflexes are born of identity and have to challenged, we havent had a crisis big enough in the twentieth century to synthesis that understanding. THIS is that crisis. Brexit is the size of the framework we have for it so buckle your seatbelts. I have been relentlessly abused on twitter and targeted by political parties and people with major amounts of power. Cos they weren’t used to mixing with someone like me. It’s flattering really cos am just a mum. But we are about to consolidate rights for women and girls and accept the changes women made in the twentieth century so we can move on through the twenty first... "continues

RubyShooFan Wed 20-Jun-18 22:53:33

It’s very disappointing that all rowantrees excellent quotes of hers from twitter have been lost as well sad

pombear Wed 20-Jun-18 22:54:12

Fermats back at you!

Yipyap loving/not loving the visual of the toad, sitting on each thread.

(no idea how to load a picture of a toad onto thread!)

womanformallyknownaswoman Wed 20-Jun-18 22:55:23

I make a comment about women who speak out being targeted and when I come - poof - the thread has been successfully targeted - I feel like there is wilful blindness in the moderation at present to the tactics of abusive men - why?

heresyandwitchcraft Wed 20-Jun-18 22:55:50

What in the actual [REDACTED]?!

This absolute [REDACTED] needs to stop. We have to be able to call a [REDACTED] a [REDACTED], and hear from our [REDACTED].

I stand with [REDACTED] and [REDACTED]. I believe in [REDACTED] speech!

LangCleg Wed 20-Jun-18 22:56:19


(I'm going to SIGH on the regular, because it's the only thing I can think of to say that won't result in a smiting from on high.)

Rufustheyawningreindeer Wed 20-Jun-18 22:58:48

Sorry i know its off piste but when i was nosing I noticed that someone thinks Wikipedia is a credible source

R0wantrees Wed 20-Jun-18 22:58:50

All of the comments I quoted were from the site where Lisa writes.

I think many of them were also on her Twitter feed (which is now suspended)

They can be read there.

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