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Bit personal I know, but how do you deal with your bikini line?

I get terrible rash and spots if I shave. Can't afford and can't find a waxer I'm comfortable with.

Was thinking about Nair but worry about the chemicals and safety...

Please let me in on your methods!

Ps I know I don't have to, and enjoy the freedom of a full bush but my hair is dark and it goes quite a way over the thigh/inside hip crease and my little one wants to go swimming more so I need a solution!

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DH trusted his brother with his Clubcard employee card. He gave it to his partner to use as she was doing the food shops. She’s been caught twice stealing with a trolley full and hubby is now being investigated at work. Apparently BIL knew she had a habit with stealing as he already pre warned her not to use the card if she is going to be stealing. I should add that they are very comfortable and don’t need to be stealing. She is the other woman and I have never been able to gel with her. Now i can’t bare the thought of being around her even more. DH is in a management role so i can imagine they are going to take this very seriously.

I feel like DH is downplaying it all because he doesn’t want to rock the boat but I am fuming!!!

Am I over reacting? Hubby says he didn’t want to tell me because he knew I’d over react. She’s potentially put my husband at risk of losing his job.

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5th date tomorrow night with a man who has been great up to now. I’ve had to push the time back by an hour - said I’ll need extra time to freshen up after work. His reply to me was: “No worries, can’t be having a whiffy growler lol”.

Is that date cancelling worthy or am I being a bit too harsh?

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Hi all
this is going to be a long post...so thank you to those reading to the end.
don’t know whether I’m posting for advice, perspective, or simply to get this out of my system. My last post here was , ironically enough , was about the person he now married, who he then positioned as a play date for our son and the hive mind was right ....but I digress
I have Asperger's and was married before to someone with Asperger's (both diagnosed later) and had an amicable split and 5 children together (4 living and one stillborn )
id say I was inexperienced with men ....
I am late 40s, recently ex husband 58 and his new wife 31, he has two adult children from a previous long term unmarried partnership (which broke down due to his adultery as I later learned )

now to the story
I was with my recently ex, let's call him Max, for eight years and we have a five-year-old son together.
When we met, he was very attentive and affectionate. Looking back, there was quite a lot of love-bombing. He moved things along quickly, proposed after 3 months, talked about the future early on and made me and my children feel very special and chosen.
Over time, however, there were increasing problems.
He became very controlling about who I spoke to, where I went and what I did. He would become jealous if I talked to men (even at choir or long time friends, or work) , even casually, and often accused me of flirting when I was just being friendly.
He frequently monitored conversations, broke into my phone, read diaries (using translation tools as English is not my native language although I am practically bilingual) , questioned me about phone calls and wanted to know exactly who I had been speaking to and why.
he bought many books about Asperger's in women and studied them ...
He had a lot of interest in my ex husband and my only platonic boyfriend, later building his own stories and telling me what I did and when and how I felt when with those people
.
He had a strong tendency to rewrite history and blame others for his own decisions.
there was a lot of I love you I don't love you and things like calling me selfish and getting extremely angry when I didn't want to wait a day until he could attend an emergency early pregnancy scan with me, especially given I had a miscarriage at 9 weeks a few months previously. He was livid and said I should have waited for when he could come.

In 2022 I discovered accidentally that he was still perusing his married ex lover for 3 months in the start of our relationship and proposed to me when she stopped replying
i confronted him and was told it was my fault and I ruined everything by finding out
it all went downhill from there really. Realising our marriage built on a lie was tough.
later that year he suggested a threesome with a much younger friend we had , then retracted and resorted to mild violence towards me....which was a lot on top of controlling behaviour....
in 2023, while supposedly trying to reconcile with me after an episode of DV and briefly living away, filing for divorce but then saying he doesn't want to go through, he began seeing another woman. She was positioned as a play date for our son, he met her and her daughter at a playground and kept her name and any info secret ..he spent every weekend in her and her then 2 yo daughter's company and as I later learned every day too . . I later discovered he had been involved with both of us simultaneously for several months....
a few months into their "friendship " she shared her views with him. And revealed her ex was in prison and she holds very extreme views but I not sure I am allowed to mention those due to political correctness . She is not British and is from a south European country
....to add insult to injury he announced to family we were reconciling and we sent the D11 off to cancel divorce and on the same day I discovered them in his car , her on top of him, kissing passionately. I opened the door, she was surprised I was upset as he told her he was close to finalising divorce.

after telling me it was their first kiss he tried to end the relationship with her and eventually did a month later, and told me he had chosen me, loved me and wanted to recommit to our marriage. At this point I am not proud to say, I broke into his phone and realised it was a full blown sexual relationship. Just before he broke up with her he told me everything ....their trips , his working there every day, etc
this was the end for me really but the logistical nightmare was just beginning.

He broke up with her but continued telling her that he loved her deeply and was devastated about hurting her. All the big declarations of everlasting love rang a very familiar bell
she eventually blocked him telling him if his marriage is not over she is not interested.

Over the following two years he repeatedly reassured me that he wanted our marriage to survive, that he never wanted another divorce and that he wanted us to remain together forever,....while intermittently threatening to start taking her out again (he took them to national trust places during their "friendship) ... the divorce was still hanging there being dangled over me every time he was displeased and 2 years after conditional order was granted it was still possible to finalise.

during those 2 years , while telling everyone we were together he was trying to run into her everywhere he could. He told me he was having intrusive thoughts about her and even did a ritual trying to free himself of them.
at the same time he became more controlling over me, saying he "gave up someone properly for me", some days saying he did it for duty, other times that he did it for love.
He became hostile to my children ...which I guess makes sense based on his earlier statement that a man loves a woman's children through her ...and I guess he didn't love me ...
he did a weird thing in October last year, sat next to me and showed me all their trips on air BnB and describing in detail what he did etc....when I tried to walk away he pulled me back down and continued... it was almost sadistic only somehow didn't hurt (I think by that point I was numbed) . He had an explanation why he did it, said he knew I wanted to know.

He continued stalking her, leaving gifts on the gates of her flat, took our son to the playground they met at many times and eventually saw her there Nov last year. Got very angry when son told me.
in Jan this year after an argument he applied to finalise divorce in front of me saying "you think I won't do it but I will" ...the next morning he said I forced him to do it and he will cancel. The court requested additional info given two years have passed and he then said "no I'm committed to this marriage so not proving anything. "
also in Jan this year, after applying to finalise divorce he overhearing a phone conversation I had with a long-standing friend of 20 yrs, who was going through mediation and we talked about the session , my ex suddenly claimed that this conversation was interfering with our marriage and how dare I have it in another room....

in March this year before I went away for a couple of days to see a friend I saw him messaging her. I realised he re established contact somehow
same week he provided courts and tribunals with the info they requested and 3 days later we were divorced. He refused to do a financial settlement while dragging out divorce so now we still have the house, offer accepted but sin and I not really protected financially...he is offering me half the equity (which is not much) , having drawn out and spent his private pensions as soon as he applied for divorce 3 yrs ago.
he proposed to her 3 days after divorce was finalised and married her a couple of weeks ago.His family did not attend , only his old friend and his mum who felt she had to.

Despite marrying someone else, he still says things such as:
“If you hadn’t spoken to your friend we’d still be happily married.”
"we were fine"
"he (friend) interfered with our marriage with that phone call
“You ruined our perfect life.”
“I got rid of you.”
it doesn't end here ... in the weeks leading up to his wedding he was also asking me to lie next to him, trying to me, touching me and telling me that he was still emotionally and physically attached to me and suggesting intimacy. When I asked him how she'd feel if she knew this he said she doesn't need to know and it will help us detach (!).
He said he loved both of us.
all this while trying for a baby with her and about to marry
He repeatedly said that I was “his wife” to others despite being engaged to someone else.
He asked me whether I would sabotage his wedding if I could.
He invited me to object when his wedding banns were read in church.
He told me details about the honeymoon, wedding clothes and his future plans with his new wife.he later his wedding suit on my bed before setting off down south to get married
At the same time he remains extremely controlling towards, extremely volatile at times
Although divorced and remarried, he still questions who I speak to, becomes angry if I spend time talking to other people, complains if I visited his mother who invited me with our son, and tells me that the house, everything in it , car and even the bed I sleep in are “his”.
He often says:
“It’s my house.”
“It’s my bed.”
“It’s my car.”
“You live in my house.”

we are still in the family home and so are two of my children, my son with him and a young teenager from previous marriage (my other children are older and adults/at uni)
He brought his then finance into the house several times last month despite of promising me he would not, and plans to do it when I am away later this week.
he spends every night at her council flat but pops home to see our son for an hour or two but even then sits there on his phone disengaged.
he'd tell me how happy they are and then in the same breath say that I failed in my duties “as a wife”.
He can move between telling me I am not family and telling me I should still behave like a wife within the same conversation.
He also becomes angry when our son prefers me for comfort or bedtime.
He returned from his honeymoon irritated and argumentative, telling me how romantic it was, while picking fights over coffee pods, school clothes, car seats and household arrangements.
I genuinely don’t understand how someone can claim they would still be happily married to one person while simultaneously marrying somebody else and insisting they are blissfully happy.
I appreciate there are two sides to every story and I’m certainly not perfect.
But I’m interested in whether other people recognise this pattern of behaviour.
Is this simply someone who cannot tolerate responsibility for their own choices?
Is it an attempt to keep an ex-partner emotionally attached? Overlapping?
Or is it something else entirely?
it also strikes me he talks about how she loves him with no mention of his feelings.

For context, I don’t want him back. I won't miss the messy house, his inability to tidy up after himself, the shouting, the constant arguing over everything, the "I am so important" (he is a rather senior civil servant"
I just feel extremely worried about our son, hurt he married the very person he cheated with, was irresponsible enough to not finalise finances before divorce, treats me like dirt and enjoys it.
What I seem to be grieving is the loss of the family we had, the betrayal, and the fact that he has managed to turn an affair into a wedding while continuing to blame me for his choices.

thank you for reading and I apologise for any typos which I guess there will be a few

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Hands up if you can’t sleep either!! 🙆🏼‍♀️

Seriously though, spend all day exhausted then when I get into bed it’s so bloody hot I literally feel wide awake now.

Contemplated sleeping in my car tonight with the aircon.

This really is no fun is it!! Jealous of anyone who has proper AC installed!

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Dh and i have been on the rocks for a while. Had come to heads with a massive argument today and he decided to list all my faults during an argument. Below is the list

Don't pay him enough attention.
Don't mase him feel special enough
Am too soft with the kids
Am too boring. Don't have a social life (came up when he called me an awful wife, said I coukd be worse and be out drinking every night etc and he said ooh imagine if you had a social life)
Work too much (both work full time)
Put the kids before him
Put work before him
Don't do enough around the house (I do the washing, load/unload the dishwasher, do all school drop offs and majority of pick ups bar a few odd days. Also all household admin, bills, appointments etc.)
Never listen...this came from an argument where he was shouting upstairs to our eldest...I wasn't listening as it was a conversation between them and didn't hear my name mentioned...and he got thr hump that I didn't answer

In regards to making him feel special or pay enough attention, not sure what else he expects. We work full time, have two young children and various school activities. He finishes work earlier than me and moans i don't finish work at the time on my WFH days to spend time with him (i'm contracted to 5pm??)

Oh and I don't cook dinner enough.

If someone gave this as a lift of flaws...how would you feel

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We're in a rut for quick teas on school and worknights.
What are people having that's either in a traybake or slow cooker please? I need inspiration.

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Last week, I noticed that my colleague had a blood stain on her backside. It was very obvious that her period had either started unexpectedly or she had leaked through protection. This was not what I would categorise as a small stain. As soon as I realised that she was unaware and was going to keep walking around like that, I simply told her that she has a stain. I did not even utter the words blood or period. Ever since, she has been trying to avoid me as much as she can, and I can tell she's upset that I said it in front of our other colleagues. Because we're nurses, I really did not think it was a big deal. We all have an understanding of the human body and its functions. She is considerably younger so that may be it. I have considered apologising but do not want to make the work atmosphere more tense. Was I wrong to say anything?

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With it looking likely that Andy Burnhan will be the next PM, I was interested to see if anyone else in London / the south east were worried about potential tax raises specifically around the land tax rather than stamp duty ?

A lot of my friends who live locally are worrying that he will make the land tax for the South East so high in proportion to other areas of the UK that it will be financially very difficult to afford but then also extremely difficult to sell!!

BTW we have very standard house and garden but we live in an expensive area

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First time ever using a forum! This is something I’ve struggled with for a while. I have been with my partner for a few years now who has a 9 year old child from a previous relationship. It is difficult in that the child is very spoilt, and there is not much boundary or discipline put in place by either parent. My partner is very tunnel vision and will let the child get away with almost anything, which is translating into the child having little respect for myself. I find myself struggling more as the child gets older as their behaviour continues to worsen - tantrums, screaming, shouting, they are even physical towards their other parent - and I’m starting to see they are also quite manipulative when it comes to getting their own way. I often feel like I’m not respected or listened to in my own home and I do fear the future as the child continues to get older, but I don’t feel like I can’t talk to my partner about this as they see the child as to put it bluntly, perfect. It can feel quite lonely as none of my friends are in the same position. But I do really love my partner and overall we have a great relationship, so walking away is not something I consider currently, but I’m not sure they would ever take a conversation about their child well. And I really hate to say, but it’s all led to resentment of the child. Open to any advice or similar story sharing!

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Are people responding less to work emails now, or is it just me?

I've been in various jobs for more than a quarter of a century and started noticing pre Covid that some people took ages to respond to emails, or didn't respond at all. I initially thought it was just them, either they're poor at emailing or poor at work generally.

But since Covid, this has massively ramped up.

I've wondered if it's maybe me but I'm regularly cc'ed in group emails that start 'John, have you had a chance to deal with this email..'. I've wondered if it's younger people joining the workforce and coming from a WhatsApp culture rather than an email one, in which you either respond immediately or never, but there are several people in their 30s, 40s and 50s also doing this (although probably the majority are in their 20s and early 30s).

All the emails I'm referring to will require some sort of action. For some, it's just a simple not-that-important yes, no or will find that out for you, for a client, but not responding will be seen as rude, others it's essential for the business that something is done.

Is this a thing you've noticed or is it just me?

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I want help! People's tips. I don't understand how people manage. I live in a fairly large old house.

This is my weekday routine

7am wake
7.30 - 8.30 getting kids ready for school (primary)
8.30 - 9.30 rush to office or back home to wfh.
9.30 - 5 work my arse off. Back to back meetings
5.30 pick up kids from after school
6 - 7 dinner
7 - 8 bath, bed
8 - 9 constantly put kids back to bed. Feel like tearing my hair out
9 - 9.30 basic tidy, dishwasher, check uniforms
9.30 - 10.30 try to do bits but in all honesty drink a wine and watch telly

My house is disgusting. I mean real mess. - my bathrooms are gross, dust everywhere. Im sprinting to stay still. Just about keep the show on the road but dusting, hoovering, proper cleans so hard to do

At the weekend, i do what i can. But all boys - primary school - and theyre so hyper. If I dont take them out they're out of control

What are other women doing? I dont know how womens homes look normal when they have young kids and work FT. My house is bad enough so id be embarrassed to let somone pop round. No parents. Husband MIA.

Practical tips? I feel like im missing something.

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It is light early in the morning and young children often wake early. The weather is warm at the moment so being outside in the garden in the early morning can be attractive to some people. However, if you had a young child wake early would you have them out in the garen playing at 6.30am, bearing in mind that young children aren’t often able to play quietly and keep their voices down? Also, would you raise your own voice to join in their play and interact with them at that time or do you think it is too early to let them into the garden? If so, what time do you think is acceptable?

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Hi, does anyone know the brand of the dress Kate Lawlor was wearing today (19/6/26) on This Morning? TIA

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My year 5 child still hasn't been picked to be pupil of the week and is feeling upset about it. He was also not given any parts in school plays or church readings this year, which he used to enjoy. He loves praise and responsibility.
He is working at greater depth, is quite confident and has lots of friends. Last year, he was part of the school council and he's always had parts in Christmas plays.
His teacher pulled me up a few weeks ago for the first time to say he had been moved twice due to chatting in lessons. My son explained that he had done this because he was excited about his friends' sleepover (he was sitting next to his best friend) and was finished with all his work. I feel like he's given up working hard and seems less confident. What is the best way to address it?

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Are white or cream trainers and dresses still ok? Which ones are nice enough.g. not too clunky? Are Vejas comfy? Superga? Any others?

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Today is our first proper day here
We are in Mexico
He doesn’t listen to Any sort of advice or seem to have any common sense.
Anyway he started drinking at 9am this morning in the drink up pool.
Whiskey /cocktails and shorts but no water or soft drinks.
He was with a couple,and let me go for lunch alone as he was drinking with them.
We had plans to watch the England match ,he didn’t even come to the room to get his England shirt -just drank with this random couple.
I went to meet him at 3pm and it’s now just after 4 and he can’t stand ,being sick ,dizzy and still won’t drink water .
I have put him into bed
In going out to the beach and grab some Food soon I think.
Im honestly so sad and feel really alone
Am I being ott or would you be sad too ?

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https://nordace.com/en/product/siena-pro-tote-bag-plus/

I need a tote bag to travel with, that will fit under the seat on a plane, that I can zip closed so stuff doesn’t fall out.
Sometimes will be work trip, so needs to fit my laptop. Sometimes will be holiday carryon so all the usual holiday stuff.
I have a Nordace backpack which is great for work, so thought this might be good. But is it too functional, and in fact, hideous?

Any other suggestions for around £200? Please don’t suggest Longchamp. Have a teenage daughter.

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I'm fairly certain I am not but my neighbour's attitude has made me wonder.

Earlier today, just after 7 am, I was sitting at the bottom of my garden on the bench drinking tea and just listening to the birds and looking at my flower bed. Our garden is that of a typical London Victorian terrace, surrounded on 3 sides by other gardens. I was probably 2 feet away from the fence separating our garden from opposite neighbours.

The neighbour's kids were out playing, Not particularly loudly but I could here them (I often do and it's not a problem at all, we are all living in close proximity, that's part and parcel of it). Suddenly their dog starts barking very loudly. It goes on for a couple of minutes. I then hear a male voice saying "is there anyone there?". I say, yes, your neighbour, hi (we've never spoken before). The man then says my dog is barking at you. He knows you are there. I don't know what to say so say nothing. The man adds can you move further up your garden please so my dog stops barking. I say, sorry, what did you say as I can't quite believe he is asking me to move. I have been completely quiet, minding my own business and just enjoying my garden. He repeats it. I say no, I am having my tea (!). He says, but your garden is as long as ours, there must be space for you to sit elsewhere, and if you don't move we will have to take the dog in. I reply, look I am sitting in my garden and I am going to stay here for as long as I want.

The man sighs loudly and says thank you for nothing, I'll return the favour some day. I hear a bit of rustling and muttering and then silence. Kids and dog and man have obviously gone back into the house. And I am left thinking WTF.

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DH and I are booked to go to Paris next week. The average highs in June are around 23 degrees, which is about the max I can handle. But the forecast is up to 40 every day. This wasn't what we were expecting at all.

I'm dreading it. The metro doesn't have aircon and neither do any of the places I've booked to eat (I've now cancelled them all). We had an assortment of walking routes planned, but none are going to be realistic.

We've spent a fortune on a lovely hotel room and Eurostar travel, so I can't bear to cancel the whole thing.

Does anyone have advice or reassurance or am I just going to absolutely hate it?!

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Have had our flight cancelled by Easyjet and bumped onto a later one. Don’t want the later one. Has anyone successfully managed to get money back from EasyJet when the do this? Thanks

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