Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 9

[ickky]

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

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The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

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On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

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Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Allison Bailey - claimant

Witnesses for the claimant:

Nic Williams - Fair Play for Women
A Woman's Place
FiLiA
Kate Harris - LGB Alliance

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC
Kirrin Medcalfe - head of trans inclusion Stonewall
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC and in charge of writing report on AB/complaints
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC

Current Witness - Charlie Tennant - Clerk at GCC

To come

Luke Harvey - Clerk at GCC
Louise Hooper - Clerk at GCC
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge

David Renton - I declare that I am a slime bag who recorded my colleague

I'm walking the dog. Listening on my phone which is about to die. Who is this witness?

I think the judge's sighs are becoming their own language

That was a surprise. I was half expecting that we would find out on Monday that DR had given his evidence in private.

Thank you nauticant and ickky!

I think previous witnesses have admitted that it was outside their standard complaint procedure that they tweeted that Allison was under investigation. Because the investigation should be confidential and they shouldn't be pre-empting the outcome possibly?

So it seems that LH2 insisting on certain things from an ideological perspective suggests that this was motivated by discrimination against Allison's protected belief, rather than just oversight because of incompetence or being too busy?

Next witness:
David Renton - Barrister, Garden Court Chambers
www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/barristers/david-renton/sao
"David Renton specialises in housing, discrimination and employment law. He acts for vulnerable tenants in disrepair possession hearings, and for employees, principally in cases of ordinary or trade union discrimination.
Before being called to the bar, David was an author and historian and subsequently an official of the academics' and lecturers' union UCU specialising in equality law. He now represents clients who are vulnerable, whether through illness, disability or addiction, and has been on the EHRC's panel of approved counsel."

I’m sending EJ Goodman a very large 🍸
She looks like she could do with one.

David Renton. Allison's room mate who acted in ways that I would affect to find unbecoming for someone with the benefit of an Eton and Oxford education were it not for his allegiance to the SWP.

IO/RW asleep again. Saying in box that witness hasn't affirmed...

Very well. Can I respectfully [and I hope you'll agree with me] request an alternative for said Twix, an 'intensively chocolately' Twirl?

I don't think it's a good idea to post insults on this thread about witnesses. Reasonable criticisms of their testimony once they've started, yes, insults, not good.

I don't like him already.

Could you imagine a colleague recording your conversations? Abhorrent.

He’s a very angry man.

"Unsavoury things were said"

Here we go, off to a flying start, he’s out like a rocket

Here come Uriah Heep.

'unsavoury' . Good grief.

DR effectively, 'if I don't like the content of someone else's phone call, then it isn't a private call'

Oh boy, I do not like this witness

Go BC!

Oh ho. That was nice from Ben.

Battle of the Beards!

I don't think BC is best pleased with the idea of ignoring confidentiality when overhearing colleagues' calls in an office in chambers.

Mackenzie Crook in the film.

Seconded.