NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board - thread #2

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks.

First thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

It's being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr

'I'm a bigot and so's my wife'...

I've come to the conclusion that according to NHS Fife SP could only ever have done the right thing if she had prostrated herself on the floor at the alter of transpeople.

I really hate how subservient women are expected to be.

I have to tell the truth in this courtroom and Upton is male!

Fucking misgendering again!
SR seems to think this is some sort of terrible injustice.

Tale as old as time.

Ff

I thought i was in a time loop, cos i could swear that JR said exactly those words to SP an hour ago.

Again, I don't think that haranging a dejected witness over compelled speech, when it's clear that she's justified in not following compelled speech in the circumstances in question, is that great an approach.

It's very pre-2020.

I HAVE TO TELL THE TRUTH

SP I tried to gender Beth as he wanted to be gendered unfortunately it doesn't come easily to me as I know he's a man.

JR accuses SP for not gendering Dr Upton correctly at all during proceedings

SP has repeatedly used she during this. A lot is times she uses she and he in the same sentence.

Literally laughing at the performative indignation from Russell. How many times can she bang on about pronouns?

SP losing her way. She just has to say the truth: if she did not use the correct pronoun when confronting BU she is agreeing he should be there, as it would be suggesting he is a she, which he is not

If I was SR I’d be wearing pearls do I can clutch them every time SP says MAN!

I'm screaming into the void here with JR's 'misgendering' line of questioning.

It's been made clear that this case rests on Upton being male and SP calling him so in court is not the same as at work, if she had done that.

I thought it was for clarity and also for not lying in court.

Why would NHS Fife's policy have any bearing on what an ex employee can say in a tribunal?

I can't be the only one who noticed that SP and NC were careful to refer to Dr Upton as "Beth" yesterday.

Hold steady, Nurse Peggie.

You'd think a lawyer might have come across concepts such as indecent exposure and voyeurism, wouldn't you?

Clearly Dr Upton hasn't brought along the brightest and best.

I think SP had had enough now, and I don't blame her.

The way that Mrs Peggie is being treated is infuriating.

And even then, whilst carefully endeavouring to refer to this male as ‘she’, JR has forgotten she cannot admit that she knows he is male and referred to Upton as ‘he’.

JR on about Beth being in tears because she was so upset. Back to Beth's account...

I'm only going by TT and on here, but JR seems to be responsible for most of the mis-gendering today.

Quite. And then they wonder why they can't recruit staff. It's a complete fucking mystery, isn't it?