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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board - thread #2

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nauticant · 04/02/2025 11:37

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks.

First thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

It's being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr

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ickky · 05/02/2025 12:00

Bannedontherun · 05/02/2025 11:58

To appear as a witness one has to have submitted a written statement in ET. Anyway.

I know, but we were discussing why Maya is on the stand, it must be so they can cross examine.

Signalbox · 05/02/2025 12:01

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:00

If the judge comes back and immediately breaks for lunch i may scream!

I was just thinking as much. So much time wasted this morning.

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:01

Panel back

GCITC · 05/02/2025 12:01

Judge is now chopping down trees to make the paper for the witness statement

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 05/02/2025 12:01

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:00

If the judge comes back and immediately breaks for lunch i may scream!

I thought the same thing!

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:01

Maya stating her name and credentials

WhoPutTheBomp · 05/02/2025 12:02

😍

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:03

JR asking about her credentials and her being in economics and where she worked before and her degree in agriculture

Signalbox · 05/02/2025 12:03

ickky · 05/02/2025 12:00

I know, but we were discussing why Maya is on the stand, it must be so they can cross examine.

Maya is the claimant witness. The defence are free to cross examine her but it may not do their case any favours to do so.

Chrysanthemum5 · 05/02/2025 12:03

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/02/2025 11:55

That trailing power cable is really making me twitch

Me too!!

ickky · 05/02/2025 12:03

Now trying to establish that Maya has no qualifications or experience in Gender identity.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 05/02/2025 12:03

JR trying to undermine Maya.

No one needs qualifications in sex, or gender, Jane. 🙄

ILikeDungs · 05/02/2025 12:03

trying to disparage her credentials

DemeraraAbyss · 05/02/2025 12:03

Didn’t someone mention SP’s DH is also on the witness list? I hope they get to him and finish with him today. SP will need his support but won’t be able to discuss the trial with him until he has been done.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/02/2025 12:04

I hate the way that JR asks the same question over and over again - is she trying to prompt a favourable answer, emphasise a point, or just waste time.?

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:04

JR: Maya doesn't have any qualifications in regards sex and gender, didn't work in the area before ? Date

Harassedevictee · 05/02/2025 12:04

Agriculture - that’s actually helpful, why do you separate bulls from cows, rams from sheep?

ickky · 05/02/2025 12:04

Now having a pop about always saying Men.

Mmmnotsure · 05/02/2025 12:05

JRussell - you don't have any qualifications in the area of sex and gender.

This is back to the Australian case where they said Helen Joyce's background didn't qualify her to open a can of soup.

legalimmigrant · 05/02/2025 12:05

Sex matters in agriculture. If the genderists were in charge they'd be too busy asking how the bull identifies to grow any food.

ickky · 05/02/2025 12:05

Harassedevictee · 05/02/2025 12:04

Agriculture - that’s actually helpful, why do you separate bulls from cows, rams from sheep?

I would also imagine it helps with identifying bullshit.

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:05

JR asking about Maya meaning men when taking about sexual assault, nothing about transwomen.

Maya they refer to all men by which i mean all males

legalimmigrant · 05/02/2025 12:06

IT IS SCIENTIFIC FACT TRANSWOMEN ARE MEN

chilling19 · 05/02/2025 12:06

Hands off our Maya 😡

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:06

JR getting Maya to confirm she includes transwomen as men and it's her belief.
Maya it's a fact that people who are male are male

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