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Trans Ideology - a real life debate

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Forester1 · 26/10/2023 19:11

So something that is far too rare - a proper debate

For me positions can be summarised as:

Mark Glenening - free speech paramount - and shouldnt have compelled speech
Helen Joyce - Single sex spaces are needed - males need to keep out - however they identify
Freda Wallace - Me, me, me, my sex life, me
Peter Tatchell - Akin to fight for gay rights, black rights. I don’t see any issues. Be kind.

DEBATE: Does transgender ideology threaten liberal values?

Debates surrounding gender identity have gained prominence in the last few years.Trans rights activists have argued that trans people have a right to be reco...

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AlphaTransWoman · 31/10/2023 20:35

@Froodwithatowel

More interesting than toilets. I think we can agree on that one.

Froodwithatowel · 31/10/2023 20:36
sun conure parrot GIF

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ArthurbellaScott · 31/10/2023 20:36
monty pythons flying circus GIF

Threads nearly dead.

Melroses · 31/10/2023 20:36

I remember someone telling us that when he felt vulnerable walking down the street, he just took his heels off and put his trainers on, turned his coat collar up, and took big strides.

ChishiyaBat · 31/10/2023 20:36

Oooh a COCKatoo😂

Froodwithatowel · 31/10/2023 20:37

It's pining for the fjords.

Melroses · 31/10/2023 20:39

Norwegian Blue 💙

ArthurbellaScott · 31/10/2023 20:39

I hope this has been a useful and informative thread for any lurkers.

AlphaTransWoman · 31/10/2023 20:40

Happy Halloween! And thank you for your comments 😀

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 31/10/2023 20:40

You wanna live like lady people
You wanna see whatever lady people see
Wanna sleep with lady people
You wanna sleep with lady people
Like me
But he didn't understand
he just smiled and held my hand
Wear a dress bought in a shop
Grow your hair and get a job (that pays less)
Wear some skirts and knit some socks
Pretend you went to a girls school
But still you'll never get it right
'Cause when you're in a street at night
Noticing a man following you
If you called yourself dad you could stop it all, yeah.

All apologies to Jarvis Cocker - I'm no lyrists.

nevermindthesebollocks · 31/10/2023 20:42

Thank you all for such an entertaining and incisive thread! See you on the next one 👋🏼

Trans Ideology - a real life debate
lechiffre55 · 31/10/2023 20:42

narcissistic supply turned off

AlphaTransWoman · 31/10/2023 20:42

I'll be back!

Melroses · 31/10/2023 20:43
birds hold GIF

More parrot

IcakethereforeIam · 31/10/2023 20:43
Sweden Flag Sport GIF by xponentialdesign

That was excellent @Girlontherailreplacementbusservice

Didn't pumpkins used to be swedes? Does that make pumpkins transswedes?

Froodwithatowel · 31/10/2023 20:43

<Wonders about Arabella's pumpkins>

Froodwithatowel · 31/10/2023 20:44

Swedes always make me think of Worzel Gummidge.... those were ODD books...

Boiledbeetle · 31/10/2023 20:44

AlphaTransWoman · 31/10/2023 19:56

Perhaps there's another possibility here? Someone born male who is attracted to women might want to be loved by a woman in the way they perceive a woman might love another, more submissive, woman. If you're looking to describe this in terms of a sexual drive, would that be a valid option?

Can you say submissive any more frequently!

Why does your version of womaning seem to be centred around the woman being submissive?

Honestly, what's that all about?

ChishiyaBat · 31/10/2023 20:45

Here's 2 of my little flock

Trans Ideology - a real life debate
Froodwithatowel · 31/10/2023 20:46

I can draw you a picture, Beetle? But it would probably get deleted.

Melroses · 31/10/2023 20:47

Boiledbeetle · 31/10/2023 20:44

Can you say submissive any more frequently!

Why does your version of womaning seem to be centred around the woman being submissive?

Honestly, what's that all about?

Too much purchasing of porn. Commodification.

Froodwithatowel · 31/10/2023 20:48
mood smile GIF

Good grief there actually IS a Worzel Gummidge gif.....

ArthurbellaScott · 31/10/2023 20:49
are you afraid of the dark nicksplat GIF

But ...

Boiledbeetle · 31/10/2023 20:49

AlphaTransWoman · 31/10/2023 20:26

You stop being a "man" once you stop identifying as one. I do feel a lot more feminine though, having taken irreversible steps to feminise my body, if you see what I mean.

Nope. Long after you are dead and buried what remains will still be identifiable as being a man's skeleton!

Boiledbeetle · 31/10/2023 20:50

A poem to finish

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