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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A woman has been found guilty of raping two women

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AngelicaSchuylerAndHerSisters · 24/01/2023 13:23

A woman has been found guilty of raping two women when she was a man. Happened in Scotland. She hasn’t been sentenced yet - but where will she serve her sentence? In the womens prison?!
This is going to mean some serious discussions and tough times for the Scottish government. But it was surely only a matter of time before something like this happened.

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hryllilegur · 24/01/2023 14:10

AdamRyan · 24/01/2023 14:04

Just read in that article the defence lawyer said there were three vulnerable people - the two victims and the rapist.

Imagine having to listen to that if you wereone of Brysons victims Sad

Care for the victims of sexual violence seems to be an extremely low priority for the criminal justice system.

CallipyJean · 24/01/2023 14:16

AdamRyan · 24/01/2023 14:04

Just read in that article the defence lawyer said there were three vulnerable people - the two victims and the rapist.

Imagine having to listen to that if you wereone of Brysons victims Sad

That’s sickening.

I could almost understand (but of course not condone) the rapist saying it as presumably that’s part of the fetish, but the lawyer should know better. It’s a disgrace and it makes me angry, so angry for his victims

FactsAreNotMean · 24/01/2023 14:16

I think what will be interesting with this is that, unlike some of the other cases, this isn't remotely under the radar. It's been very widely reported on and as a result will be much harder to quietly pop them in Cornton Vale.

Also, credit is due to the DM photographer yesterday who very much did not, ahem, miss the point...

PronounssheRa · 24/01/2023 14:21

Updated article www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11670803/Transgender-woman-guilty-raping-two-women-man.html

According to which he has been remanded to an all female prison.

OnTheRoadAgain1 · 24/01/2023 14:24

The article I read actually says 'her penis'. HER penis?

The world has gone mad. Very convenient the rapist started transitioning post rapes and pre-sentencing.

TheOrigRights · 24/01/2023 14:26

Karmakamelion · 24/01/2023 13:50

In the picture doesn't he seem to still have a penis. Look at the leggings and then buy brain bleach

God...I misread that as "doesn't seem to have a penis", then looked and.....

I'm going back to work.

4thonthe4th · 24/01/2023 14:26

this rapist man should serve his sentence in a mens prison.

FactsAreNotMean · 24/01/2023 14:27

This was taken outside court

If they are willing to turn up to court, where they are being tried for rape, so blatantly displaying their very male penis then one can only imagine how comfortable they will be demonstrating their masculinity in a female prison.

4thonthe4th · 24/01/2023 14:27

PronounssheRa · 24/01/2023 14:21

Updated article www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11670803/Transgender-woman-guilty-raping-two-women-man.html

According to which he has been remanded to an all female prison.

Absolutely disgusting. A prison full of locked up women with nowhere to escape to. Basically a rapists dream come true. What the fuck has the world come to?

FactsAreNotMean · 24/01/2023 14:28

Ffs...picture

A woman has been found guilty of raping two women
minipie · 24/01/2023 14:28

Very convenient the rapist started transitioning post rapes and pre-sentencing

God this keeps happening. When is a judge going to be brave enough to call bullshit??

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/01/2023 14:29

Defending at the High Court in Glasgow, Edward Targowski KC, described the three main witnesses in the trial as 'vulnerable', adding: 'And that includes Isla Bryson.'

Despicable. He could mention this man's "vulnerability" without implying that his suffering is as great as that of the women he raped. It's all a bit Guardian NYE Cologne.

purpleboy · 24/01/2023 14:30

PronounssheRa · 24/01/2023 14:21

Updated article www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11670803/Transgender-woman-guilty-raping-two-women-man.html

According to which he has been remanded to an all female prison.

Is there anything we can do about this?

I feel physically sick?

AngryGoblin · 24/01/2023 14:31

Diynoidea · 24/01/2023 13:43

Impossible. Women are incapable of rape. This is a crime committed by a man and should be recorded as such and we should stop pandering to this ridiculous delusion.

totally agree, this is such bullshit

HisRoyalWhineness · 24/01/2023 14:32

So this violent male sex offender has been remanded to a women's prison for a month while sentencing decided.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!

LaviniasBigBloomers · 24/01/2023 14:33

hryllilegur · 24/01/2023 13:55

The solicitors for the defence seem to be claiming that being transgender is itself grounds for acquittal.

Mr Targowski spoke about Bryson's gender, saying: 'She is transitioning from male to female gender.

'If you accept that evidence, that she is transitioning, that she is aiming to continue on that path to becoming female gender, that goes a long way to acquitting her of these charges.'

Exactly how does deciding to transition mean you didn’t rape two women?

What else does transition absolve you of responsibility for?

Well, that's it, isn't it? That's the heart of the matter. The point of it all. The whole fucking point of it all. Woman as costume is the get out clause.

Yeah, I did it, but it was your fault I did it and now I'm a woman, well, woman don't do it, so let me just reapply my lipstick and be on my way. Then I'll do it again.

I'm so angry right now. If this person goes to a female prison then I'm going to lose my actual fucking mind.

Fififafa · 24/01/2023 14:33

hryllilegur · 24/01/2023 13:55

The solicitors for the defence seem to be claiming that being transgender is itself grounds for acquittal.

Mr Targowski spoke about Bryson's gender, saying: 'She is transitioning from male to female gender.

'If you accept that evidence, that she is transitioning, that she is aiming to continue on that path to becoming female gender, that goes a long way to acquitting her of these charges.'

Exactly how does deciding to transition mean you didn’t rape two women?

What else does transition absolve you of responsibility for?

I couldn’t believe that his defence used his Trans status as justification for raping women! Wow! Just wow!

HowDoYouOwnDisorder · 24/01/2023 14:33

I imagine a lot of rapists will do this

as it clears their criminal record as well

they’d be silly not to

yes they will go to women’s prisons. It’s a great place for rapists I am sure…

Fififafa · 24/01/2023 14:35

opencheese · 24/01/2023 14:02

Men who commit rape should have their dicks
Chopped off

Oh wait!

Does he still have a dick?

You can see his tiny dick in one of the pics🤮

unclebuck · 24/01/2023 14:37

Absurd and insulting to all women. For the victims this is the state and legal services gaslighting them.

duc748 · 24/01/2023 14:37

I hope there's a special place in Hell for anyone using the fuck-witted term, "her penis".

unclebuck · 24/01/2023 14:38

The fact that you can clearly see his male penis in the Daily Mail photos suggests that he isn't trying too hard with the 'girlie days'

LaviniasBigBloomers · 24/01/2023 14:38

minipie · 24/01/2023 14:28

Very convenient the rapist started transitioning post rapes and pre-sentencing

God this keeps happening. When is a judge going to be brave enough to call bullshit??

To be fair, the judge has presided over a case where the defendant has been found guilty and will be jailed. That in itself is vanishingly rare.

Unfortunately, it's not up to the judge where a prisoner is remanded to, that's the prosecution service.

LaviniasBigBloomers · 24/01/2023 14:39

FFS so annoyed not making sense. Prison service!

Daffodilsandtuplips · 24/01/2023 14:40

Diynoidea · 24/01/2023 13:43

Impossible. Women are incapable of rape. This is a crime committed by a man and should be recorded as such and we should stop pandering to this ridiculous delusion.

Absolutely correct. It’s getting beyond ludicrous, a man with penis has committed rape , only a man can commit rape because he has a penis. The sentence and prison should reflect what gender he was at the time of the offence, not what gender he claims to be now.

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