1 in 585 trans women are currently incarcerated for sexual offences

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Thanks to the census data, we can now show that 1 in every 585 trans women and England and Wales are convicted sex offenders.

That compares to 1 in every 2500-3000 men and 1 in every 243000 women.

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So which is it? Are trans women inherently more dangerous than men that don't identify as trans, or are men pretending to me trans in order to offend?

The answer doesn't actually matter. The same solution fixes both issues.

I've signed😁as has someone in every constituency in our fair land.

Goodness me I am giddy with shock. Let’s see what they have to say about this one…

Goodness me.
That's a turn up for the books.

What a surprise.

Nice to have some actual numbers to hand though.

So.

Who's going to be the first one to use those stats in another thread?

see the Repeal the GRA petition.

sorry not sorry for sticking this here and the one that's coming after it in a minute.

Dear MP Re: MAP OF ANGER

This really is the end you know.
Where women start to see.
And THIS all falls apart.

Where the wheels fall off,
and the brakes won't work,
and apples tumble from the cart.

There's AT LEAST
one pissed off person,
in every single place.

Where there's an MP,
who has an office,
and a name, and a face.

So, use this MAP OF ANGER,
that shows the support,
THROUGHOUT ALL
this (fair and equal?) LAND

To inform them of the fact
that soon ALL VOTERS will be informed,
and then will show as ANGRY and as RED
as our sister SCOTLAND

Starmer needs to check how many women actually vote.
He should have met with the Labour women's groups who are clued up about how women on the ground think. He is stuck in an Islington silo which has a skewed idea of what it really means to be a woman.

1 IN 585

1 in 585. Wowsers. That is an awful lot of men,
who like hurting women. Then pretending to be them.

In fact that statistic is rather quite alarming,
for a group that implies they are completely unharming.

So which is it I wonder? Do you think a trans woman
more likely to offend, then men who say they’re a man?

Or are men pretending to be trans in order to re-offend
and get their chance all over again with women who are penned?

Answers on a postcard, or in whatever way your answer identifies is the best way to respond.

I’m very open to the power of telepathic thought. Scream it loud enough in your head and wherever you are and whatever I am doing I will hear you. Oh incoming, bear with

…oh yes

@ knackeredwomanwithtoomuchtodowithouthavingtodealwiththisshitaswell
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Very nuanced answer there. And yes the smell is burning, you’ve forgotten to turn the gas down, the beans are burning).

As others have said, it's nice to have the numbers (shocking as they are).

I wonder if any of the usual genderists will be contributing to this thread.

I'm guessing someone has crunched the numbers rather than these being officially released stats? I wonder if there will be an official release.

I've already updated my spreadsheet.

You rang?

There are no stats that show TW pose any danger to women......unless you pesky vipers collate it. Honestly is there no end to your bigotry.

Greater opportunity?

That has to be the case at least for the transwoman who impregnated a 14 year old girl, whose parents would not have allowed the same relationship with a common or garden bloke.

Tbh, it’s a pretty simple bit of number crunching.

You get a very high-level description that indicates that currently imprisoned sex offenders are vastly over represented among trans women.

The why question is really important. You’d think that, rather than denying it and claiming it’s just evil TERFs and their anti-trans lies, the TRAs would be very keen to discover why. Surely it’s very much in their interests to learn whether predatory men are using trans activism to their own gain (which is one hypothesis that would need to be tested). Surely they’d want to be able to clearly distinguish between trans women and problematic men posing as them for nefarious purposes.

Surely it’s very much in their interests to learn whether predatory men are using trans activism to their own gain (which is one hypothesis that would need to be tested). Surely they’d want to be able to clearly distinguish between trans women and problematic men posing as them for nefarious purposes.

You would really think so. Except they have repeated the mantra that trans women are women, and that people are what they say they are, and that no one would ever lie about being trans, that they are now hoist by their own petard. These sex offenders are genuine trans woman, every last motherfucking one of them, so trans activists had better start owning them.

I’ve seen data that only 20% of male to female trans have had there genitalia surgery, male to female.

If they profess to wanting to be a woman WHY keep the willy!! Incredulous. Being a woman is putting up with period pain, and a period every sodding month for nearly 40 years. Then there’s menopause, don’t get me started, oh, and I forgot childbirth.

I bloody hate how it undermines our safety and identify as women, just what is wrong with these politicians. J K Rowling is bob on with what she says. We need to keep women safe.

If they profess to wanting to be a woman WHY keep the willy!!

Well...they might find a use for it later. Wouldn't want to regret throwing away a perfectly good penis now would you.I

Best hang on to It just in case

if you stopped being weirdly defensive, you might actually think about this.

The numbers of sex offenders are very small percentages of the overall population. But there are big differences and surely you are curious about that.

We are talking between 0.03 and 0.04% of men. But about 0.17% of trans women. And only 0.0004% of women. The small numbers do not point to trans women being dangerous in any absolute way. But currently imprisoned sex offenders are vastly over represented among self-identified trans women. Even compared to men as a group.

There are lots of potential reasons why this might be the case. Just shouting ‘bigot’ doesn’t help understand it in any way.

@onyttig I think Apollo441 was satirising TRA logic

Doesn't surprise me. My concerns about this issue began some years ago after a colleague did a DBS check which revealed the woman who had applied for a volunteer role (with children) was actually a convicted male sex offender. And a less observant person might not have spotted the very recent date of the birth certificate and asked for more information.

Surely they’d want to be able to clearly distinguish between trans women and problematic men posing as them for nefarious purposes.
Well quite

Well I didn’t know the figures but one thing I noted years ago was just how many vicious/serial murderers of women seem to have fetishes around women’s clothing and often later “transitioned”. It’s been as plain as the noses on our face that there is a significant correlation statistically, but we weren’t allowed to acknowledge it, which frankly is terrifying in itself.

Further to my post, go do a deep dive yourself, if you can stomach it. You’ll get to the point where you’re utterly unsurprised to read they later transitioned in prison. More like surprised when they haven’t!

Ah. It’s hard to tell.

Which says quite a lot about TRA logic.

in any case. They should be curious about it. Very curious.

Where do you get this nonsense from?
Do you understand statistics, ratios and percentages, or are you too busy hating women to concentrate?