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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride

638 replies

ZombieMumEB · 27/08/2022 14:01

This is horrifying. Women (lesbians) told by police they are going to be removed because abuse is being hurled at these women.

Police do nothing about the person shouting the abuse.

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SecretMoomin · 27/08/2022 14:05

Why aren’t the group aggressively shouting “fuck off” removed instead?

NecessaryScene · 27/08/2022 14:24

Why aren’t the group aggressively shouting “fuck off” removed instead?

Or at least both? It's possible the police may feel they can't control the situation if they remain, but they should at least make an attempt - detain the troublemakers.

Or are they too afraid of the mob turning on them, if they try to deal with them?

AlwaysCocaColaz · 27/08/2022 14:26

They're are gay pride!!

Holding signs saying they're proud to be gay (same sex attracted)

What the fuck is going on?!!

CompleteGinasaur · 27/08/2022 14:29

It just occurred that Filia is at Cardiff this year. If this is the response of South Wales Police to a group of lesbians at Pride (an event, ironically, created to advocate for our right to protest and visibility) I fear for Filia attendees (myself included) when this lot of entitled men's rights activists are reinforced by the Bristol Black Pampers. It's only an hour across the Severn Bridge..

Wheresthebeach · 27/08/2022 14:34

Pride has been taken over by MRA

FOJN · 27/08/2022 14:36

Male police officer - "Let me just explain to you and it will give you some understanding"

And people pretend mansplaining isn't a thing! What a complete prick. This s shameful.

waterbabys · 27/08/2022 14:45

This just keeps happening again and again with the police! When will they realise a peaceful bunch of women being harassed by a loud intimidating crowd of mainly men are not the ones to be 'moved on'?!

It's infuriating. I feel so sorry for my lesbian sisters.

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 14:46

It is NOT because they are lesbians.

Artichokeleaves · 27/08/2022 14:54

It is because they are lesbians. And insisting on their right to be same sex attracted female homosexuals who are not open to pretending that sex does not exist, or to claiming to be willing to learn to cope with straight sex to validate male people's identity. And to say so. Out, Proud, Loud, get used to it. Etc.

If you're in any doubt of the rampant homophobia and misogyny of this movement read the current very very long thread here where one poster is vigorously trying to convince the world that female homosexuals are a weird, wrong minority who really do love penis deep down and that lesbianism is a nice term for anyone of any sex who quite likes the jacket and badge.

AlwaysCocaColaz · 27/08/2022 14:54

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 14:46

It is NOT because they are lesbians.

Yes it is.

They are saying they are same sex attracted. Which apparently invalidates transwomen.

Because lesbians HAVE TO have sex with 'ladypenis' otherwise that makes them transphobes.

Lesbians aren't allowed to say they're lesbians anymore.

CompleteGinasaur · 27/08/2022 14:58

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 14:46

It is NOT because they are lesbians.

No, you're right. It's because they're lesbians who insist on their right to define their identities for themselves, to not allow the word 'lesbian' to be redefined to suit the arrogance of colonising males and to insist on exploring their own sexual desires and setting setting their own sexual boundaries. HTH.

CompleteGinasaur · 27/08/2022 14:59

Sorry, ArtichokeLeaves, crosspost - I'm a very slow typist!

badbaduncle · 27/08/2022 15:00

Angry men abuse gay women at pride and the police remove the lesbians. It's surreal.

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:01

CompleteGinasaur · 27/08/2022 14:58

No, you're right. It's because they're lesbians who insist on their right to define their identities for themselves, to not allow the word 'lesbian' to be redefined to suit the arrogance of colonising males and to insist on exploring their own sexual desires and setting setting their own sexual boundaries. HTH.

Agreed it is because they are lesbians with a particular political point of view about what the word lesbian means. At least one has a placard.
There will be plenty of other lesbians on the march.

AlwaysCocaColaz · 27/08/2022 15:04

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:01

Agreed it is because they are lesbians with a particular political point of view about what the word lesbian means. At least one has a placard.
There will be plenty of other lesbians on the march.

A particular political point of view?

No. The very definition of a lesbian is someone who is same sex attracted.

If you were born with a penis you are not a woman and therefore cannot be a lesbian.
There is NOTHING political about that. It is basic biology.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/08/2022 15:08

Hahaha “lesbians with a particular political view point about what the word lesbian means” fuck me just listen to yourself

”vegans with a particular optical view point about what the word vegan means”

lesbians don’t want to fuck people with penises

Vegans don’t eat meat

you don’t get to arbitrarily redefine words and then abuse the people defined by that word for not agreeing with their unwanted redefining

YellowPlumbob · 27/08/2022 15:09

CompleteGinasaur · 27/08/2022 14:58

No, you're right. It's because they're lesbians who insist on their right to define their identities for themselves, to not allow the word 'lesbian' to be redefined to suit the arrogance of colonising males and to insist on exploring their own sexual desires and setting setting their own sexual boundaries. HTH.

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antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:09

I agree with the political point of view, but of course it is a political point of view.

YellowPlumbob · 27/08/2022 15:11

Rape culture at its finest on display today.

“You won’t have sex with me because I have a penis, you’re a transphobic, have sex with me”

Do one. Since when do women have to give a reason for refusing to have sex with someone?

And then when we’re forced to explain ourselves - because MTF are just men with a lifetime of entitlement, privilege and aggression behind them - we still get abused.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/08/2022 15:12

How is lesbians being same sex attracted “a political point of view” rather than you know a fact which evetone knew & understood till about 5 minutes ago

Georgeskitchen · 27/08/2022 15:12

It's South Wales Police

'nuff said

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:16

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/08/2022 15:12

How is lesbians being same sex attracted “a political point of view” rather than you know a fact which evetone knew & understood till about 5 minutes ago

Because lesbian is always a political word as to who counts. Do political lesbians count? Do women who have had relationships with men and now are with women count as lesbians? What about women still married to men who say they are lesbians?
These debates happened long before the transgender issue. It has always been a politically disputed term.

Artichokeleaves · 27/08/2022 15:16

It is quite essentially a belief that a biological female has no right walking around with biology that is not sexually serving a male.

That females should not be allowed to have and define and openly declare themselves as having a sexuality that is of no use to a male and defies males in refusing to serve them. Such females should be punished, shunned, rejected. Shamed. There is no room for them in the rainbow of penis-serving diversity and inclusion.

Come and see the extremist misogyny and homophobia inherent in the system. Help, help, we're being oppressed.

and no one fucking cares because we're only female

Artichokeleaves · 27/08/2022 15:17

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:16

Because lesbian is always a political word as to who counts. Do political lesbians count? Do women who have had relationships with men and now are with women count as lesbians? What about women still married to men who say they are lesbians?
These debates happened long before the transgender issue. It has always been a politically disputed term.

26 page plus thread on this live now. This doesn't need rehashing here for the umpteenth homophobic time.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/08/2022 15:19

Indeed artichoke - obvious derailing is obvious