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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride

638 replies

ZombieMumEB · 27/08/2022 14:01

This is horrifying. Women (lesbians) told by police they are going to be removed because abuse is being hurled at these women.

Police do nothing about the person shouting the abuse.

twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1563490240912044033

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/08/2022 11:26

It's a big no no with TRAs to call yourself a "trans woman" if you are female NB. Jack Monroe did once and got a lot of flak for it.

IcakethereforeIam · 28/08/2022 11:29

Oh, the hypocrisy.

RedToothBrush · 28/08/2022 11:31

Being a lesbian is not a political choice. Anymore than its a lifestyle choice.

I thought we had got past this nonsense.

Lesbians should be able to protest about their political issues without fear anyway.

Viviennemary · 28/08/2022 11:33

I read that a group of Lesbians were harrassing the trans gender marchers. Why cant they just live and let live and let folk be proud of who they are. I thought thats what its meant to be the whole point of it.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/08/2022 11:34

Oh, the hypocrisy.

It's because the only way to distinguish between female and male "trans women" would be their biological sex, and they don't appreciate the reminder of it. Even though it seems perfectly reasonable based on "transgender" being an umbrella term which includes "non binary"

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/08/2022 11:36

Do we think counter protests shouldn't be allowed anywhere? Should the TRAs that turn up to protest various feminist events be dragged off by the police?

DisgustedofManchester · 28/08/2022 11:42

I was at Manchester Pride yesterday. Loads of Lesbians. Weird that eh?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/08/2022 11:43

DoM

Perhaps you could answer my question. If someone has planned an event, should counter protests be removed by the police?

IcakethereforeIam · 28/08/2022 11:49

My point was tw, or tras, are constantly taking words and trying to redefine them to suit their own ideology.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/08/2022 11:51

I agree. But it's interesting that they're so precious about meanings when it suits them.

MargaritaPie · 28/08/2022 11:52

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 14:46

It is NOT because they are lesbians.

From the comments this appears to be the case.

When they were removed lots of people (women and lesbians included) cheered. It appears they were removed for causing trouble and confrontation and their views do not represent the majority of women or lesbians.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 28/08/2022 11:55

Ah I see the midday shift has arrived to tell us that actually men can be lesbians

in other news the bbc remain as biased as ever and also too stupid to think we can’t see it

Theeyeballsinthesky · 28/08/2022 11:55

Bbc as always

Artichokeleaves · 28/08/2022 12:01

MargaritaPie · 28/08/2022 11:52

From the comments this appears to be the case.

When they were removed lots of people (women and lesbians included) cheered. It appears they were removed for causing trouble and confrontation and their views do not represent the majority of women or lesbians.

Which is utterly impossible to evidence because as demonstrated, the only 'lesbians' permitted at Pride these days are the ones who either have penises or are willing to suck them.

Anyone not loudly clapping and shouting mantras at that in the approved manner has been excluded for being homosexual and saying so. So it's certainly the majority opinion of the TQ+ controlled ideology, but no one's checked how many homosexual people have given up, gone away and accepted that Pride and LGBTWhatever is no longer welcoming or inclusive of them, is hostile to them, stomps all over them, and is something they need to get the hell away from.

Many of whom post on this board, but are repeatedly told they're the wrong kind of homosexual, and therefore inclusion and diversity and other words don't apply.

It's like 'no women are excluded from women's spaces by TQ+ male people using them' - no one is checking or recording and the massive majority of those excluded are too bloody scared to draw attention to their exclusion

They have been bullied out. By the oh so loving and kind and inclusive gender lobby. Which makes what these few female people did an act of absolute bloody heroism, because I'd have been far too scared to stand in front of those bullies and challenge them. And makes it blatant what the TQ+ lobby's true colours really are.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/08/2022 12:08

Which makes what these few female people did an act of absolute bloody heroism, because I'd have been far too scared to stand in front of those bullies and challenge them.

These women are amazing. I have long been in awe of them, starting when they led the parade at Pride in London 2018.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/07/anti-trans-group-allowed-to-lead-pride-in-london-march-after-hijack/

Literally the only reason that I'm linking to PN is that they have a full video embedded of this - if you're going to click on any PN article, make it this one.

Nellodee · 28/08/2022 12:12

I didn’t realise they’d been told to go to the front (presumably to make it easier to remove them?) That makes the police reaction even worse in my eyes.

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 28/08/2022 12:26

I can't understand the value of a definition of lesbian which includes men. Most people don't care if a man wears a dress. So if a man wearing a dress has sex with a woman, most people don't care about that. You can't feel homophobic towards a couple which you see as a man and a woman.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 28/08/2022 12:31

Thank you thegrandbleu

Datun · 28/08/2022 12:34

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 28/08/2022 12:26

I can't understand the value of a definition of lesbian which includes men. Most people don't care if a man wears a dress. So if a man wearing a dress has sex with a woman, most people don't care about that. You can't feel homophobic towards a couple which you see as a man and a woman.

There's no value to lesbians. Quite the opposite.

The 'value' comes in the form of validation that the male in question is actually female. Heterosexual males want to be thought of as lesbian, both for reasons of having sex with women, and the validation that they too are woman.

they don't target heterosexual women, because heterosexual women only date men. And that isn't validating for them.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 28/08/2022 12:39

BBC report conveniently fails to mention who the protesters were, and why they were there...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62701100

Farmageddon · 28/08/2022 12:43

Viviennemary · 28/08/2022 11:33

I read that a group of Lesbians were harrassing the trans gender marchers. Why cant they just live and let live and let folk be proud of who they are. I thought thats what its meant to be the whole point of it.

The transgender marchers are mainly men who claim to be lesbians, who harass and attack actual female lesbians who disagree. What's live and let live about that?
When heterosexual males in dresses are more welcome at Pride than female lesbians, there is something gone very wrong.

Farmageddon · 28/08/2022 12:44

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 28/08/2022 12:26

I can't understand the value of a definition of lesbian which includes men. Most people don't care if a man wears a dress. So if a man wearing a dress has sex with a woman, most people don't care about that. You can't feel homophobic towards a couple which you see as a man and a woman.

The value is mainly to the man in a dress who has delusions he is actually a women, and wishes to be validates as such. Everyone must participate in this or be branded a bigot.

Farmageddon · 28/08/2022 12:45

Ah, I see MargaritaPie and DisgustedofManchester have turned up to tell us all what big meanies we are. How nice.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/08/2022 12:46

Nobody seems to want to answer whether protesting TRAs should be removed by the police from GC feminist events.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 28/08/2022 12:49

Weird that erish