Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 8

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

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The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

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There is also live tweeting from

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Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

"I seem to be in a lobby with waiting for the conference host to join message!"
@BenCooperisaGod

Same.

TT says it's a 5 minute break.

She is very calm and patient but I cannot even imagine how fed up the EJ must be with both GCC and Stonewall witnesses. And to a certain extent their lawyers too. I’d be spending all the breaks punching a pillow! It can’t be good tactics to annoy the hell out of the judge, surely?

Back in now

Back in

Back in. Phew. Mr Reuby doing a sterling job as usual to keep things on track.

since GCC has two barristers, I don’t see why the junior can’t take over reexamination if AH needs to leave. Why should JK’s prevarication and AH’s limited availability be rewarded by a curtailed cross examination by BC?

Im in!

Bingo card v1

BC really trying to get her to answer the question directly here!

I dunno, I feel for anyone who's grieving and having to pay close attention to this tribunal and then going straight off to the funeral.

So good to put faces to the names.

@StrongOutspokenOftenIrritating

I mow lawn
Build flat pack furniture
Do bins
Turn compost
Chop wood with circular saw

I also do all hair and medical appts
Child diary management
And have a pair or two of heels

Maybe I'm just confused

On the angry point, why on earth shouldn't Allison be angry? With everything she has had to put up with from colleagues who purported to be her friends (and who you would think had a basic understanding of the Equalities Act), let alone the anonymous randoms on Twitter, yes betrayal, sadness and upset are reasonable emotions. But so is anger.

I am sick to death of women's anger being used against us. To silence or discredit us or put us back in our place. Allison's needs do not have to be considered only after everyone else's nice-to-haves have been accommodated.

Bingo card 'quote swearing'

I'm getting really annoyed with JK's rambly evasive answers.

Oo. Joanna Cherry is watching

It might not truly be JC QC...

Yes if anything women's anger should be given more respect. As a whole, it takes a lot to anger women and we generally have more patience and empathy.

I'm an optimist!

"Allison was very angry"

I can't imagine that continually referring to AB as "angry" is doing GCC any favours given the way the other GCC barristers have been behaving on the stand.

Definitely non-binary. <nods sagely>