Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 8

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

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The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

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Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

I don't think it is reasonable. He's being talked over by AH, JK and a bloody drill - and JK avoiding proper answers and giving long winded arguments instead of letting him finish. Must be so irritating.

(For bingo card: cotton ceiling or lesbians' knickers)

JK re GCC: "We are not here to pander to any external viewpoint."

EJ: c time constraints, to BC's commenting on length of JK's answers and the fact that they stray from his questions:
The tribunal can draw conclusions from the kind of answer you get to your questions.

We're back to the Cotton Ceiling. The gift that keeps on giving. (Although not for lesbians.)

JK answer was to take advantage of EJ's intervention for BC to hurry along, by directing BC to MS answers on that point.

Good intervention by the judge - we know this witness is not answering the questions and will take that into account

AH has now extended his availability until 11:40. Must have a helicopter to Mortlake on standby.

Blimey, this witness is like a politician- taking offence to every question, smirking, and trying to distract away from the point...

EJ has indicated that she understands that his questions are clear.

Thank you!! Pop goes the cork!

BC: her answers have tended to stray from Qs I ask and that's taking long time
EJ: tribunal can draw conclusions to your clear questions

Good.

JK tactics aren’t washing with the Tribunal

@Signalbox Indeed

Have been thrown back into the lobby

In TV trials, the judge intervenes to say 'answer the question'. Is the EJ not allowed to do that in a tribunal? It would be so much better if she could just tell JK to answer the question directly.

Likewise. I hope it reconnects with my former settings.

Poor Ben, this morning...he's not himself and who would be with all the nonsense he's had to put up with, this morning?

I would have gone to pieces by now.

Isn't that provocative and against the rules?

I dunno...only if the Tribunal is familiar with A Few Good Men. 🤷‍♀️

I seem to be in a lobby with waiting for the conference host to join message

I doubt it, it is not directed at either side so is neutral and there had been a lot worse in this hearing.

I think sign-in names can be allusional but mustn't be pointedly directed at one side or the other.

Has everyone else been kicked out?

Surely it should be Nathan "You can't handle the truth!" Jessup?

Have they gone into case management does anyone know?

Are they having another private meeting does anyone know?