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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 8

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ickky · 19/05/2022 12:23

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

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nauticant · 19/05/2022 16:02

BC will go in to tomorrow with JK but not for long.

stimpyyouidiot · 19/05/2022 16:03

Bet AH will stamp his feet about taking JK in to tomorrow

Ameanstreakamilewide · 19/05/2022 16:04

chilling19 · 19/05/2022 16:01

BC - it does stand For Fuck's Sake doesn't it? He is having a fine time with the sweary language and Lesbians knickers 😂😂😂😂

I'm still reeling from 'cunt wipe' last week!

chilling19 · 19/05/2022 16:05

I know this cost a fortune, but BC is earning every penny that he is entitled to.

Sorrynotsorryyeah · 19/05/2022 16:05

Mollyollydolly · 19/05/2022 16:02

The other Ben Cooper QC on twitter is very nice and seems a wee bit terfy. Think we've convinced him 😛

Thats not the other QC. It’s just some random bloke who happens to be called Ben Cooper.

chilling19 · 19/05/2022 16:07

If I needed barristers, BC and AB would be my dream team

Mumsnut · 19/05/2022 16:07

I think there’s even a third Ben Cooper QC

nauticant · 19/05/2022 16:09

AH requests to start at 9.30 and no one objected. Looks like it will be then.

BC says another hour or so tomorrow, or half an hour, depending on how the witness answers.

chilling19 · 19/05/2022 16:09

Also, shout out to Judge Goodman for being steady and competent throughout (also for the facial expressions and head in hands on occasion).

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 19/05/2022 16:10

chilling19 · 19/05/2022 16:07

If I needed barristers, BC and AB would be my dream team

Let's hope it was a simultaneous employment discrimination and violent crime case 😂

chilling19 · 19/05/2022 16:12

Idisagree - certainly not beyond the realms of possibly: have been known to rage around the house when colleagues are driving me up the wall.

nauticant · 19/05/2022 16:12

AB's email on page 622 is excellent. She requests how GCC should run the complaint, fairly and tranparently, and then GCC didn't follow this.

BellaAmorosa · 19/05/2022 16:12

Hi, all.

I'm new to commenting though I have been lurking and following developments in Allison's case. I am really enjoying all your commentaries, so thanks for that!

I was moved to contribute a couple of suggestions for actors to play the characters in the movie.
Allison Bailey - Sharon D Clarke. Big woman with a lovely voice, like AB.
Ben Cooper - Chris Evans bears a strong resemblance but I'm going with Jamie Dornan or Sam Heughan (Outlander) for all-out gorgeousness and being able to handle an English accent. (I've never heard BC speak, but I assume he's English.)

chilling19 · 19/05/2022 16:17

Hi Bella -yes he is English, but can't quite place his accent

ickky · 19/05/2022 16:17

BellaAmorosa · 19/05/2022 16:12

Hi, all.

I'm new to commenting though I have been lurking and following developments in Allison's case. I am really enjoying all your commentaries, so thanks for that!

I was moved to contribute a couple of suggestions for actors to play the characters in the movie.
Allison Bailey - Sharon D Clarke. Big woman with a lovely voice, like AB.
Ben Cooper - Chris Evans bears a strong resemblance but I'm going with Jamie Dornan or Sam Heughan (Outlander) for all-out gorgeousness and being able to handle an English accent. (I've never heard BC speak, but I assume he's English.)

Yes we need to sort out the full cast list. 😀

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ickky · 19/05/2022 16:18

chilling19 · 19/05/2022 16:17

Hi Bella -yes he is English, but can't quite place his accent

He is well spoken, but not cut glass accent.

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nauticant · 19/05/2022 16:18

Will the full cast list be in the header for the next thread @ickky?

Lougle · 19/05/2022 16:18

The bundle issues are awful.

Appalonia · 19/05/2022 16:20

Ha back to the 'reasonable Twitter user' ,doesn't she know there's no such thing!

nauticant · 19/05/2022 16:21

Yay for Pink News making AB's case for her by publishing that GCC had thrown AB under the bus.

Lougle · 19/05/2022 16:21

I notice that in her witness statement, JK omits 'sex' in the list of equalities she is passionate about.

nauticant · 19/05/2022 16:22

And then it's Alex Sharpe tweeting about the effect of GCC tweet. Good stuff.

ickky · 19/05/2022 16:23

nauticant · 19/05/2022 16:18

Will the full cast list be in the header for the next thread @ickky?

I think we should save it for when we have seen all the players. 😀

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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 19/05/2022 16:24

chilling19 · 19/05/2022 16:05

I know this cost a fortune, but BC is earning every penny that he is entitled to.

Plus Peter Daly and the rest of the people who make up this team.

chilling19 · 19/05/2022 16:24

Yes ickky - we can have a vote!

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