Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 7

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.

On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

EJ Goodman is so polite.

I could feel 'yeah, alright, Miss Omambala!' bubbling up on my tongue.

What a day 😳

So Judy Khan potentially starting this afternoon was totally pulled out of the bag with no warning wasn't it? Unless I missed that bit too when @Gabcsika was in Lidl. I thought there was discussion about someone else starting first and then SH loudly disagreeing to give evidence on certain days due to clashes with exams

I'm so gutted to have missed Allison's days. I thought it would be difficult to get access, so I didn't try until this week.

I find the hearing goes best for me when I crochet or paint at the same time. That keeps one bit of my brain occupied & allows me to concentrate on the words. I find seeing it too distracting, although some of MS's time, yesterday & today, HAD to be seen.

How does everybody else listen to it?

So Judy Khan tomorrow. Have we had any indication of how long she might take and who might be after her? Missed most of MHL's evidence as needed to get some stuff done. This trial is not good for productivity!

I have to go in to work either tomorrow or Friday. Which is the best day of this to miss? Is the tribunal sitting once AH leaves to go off to his funeral at 11.30 on Friday?

Don't know if this has already been linked to/posted but it's worth a read.

Link to tweet

"Morgan Page's email explanation of the cotton ceiling confirms what is obvious to everyone other than Garden Court Chambers witness Maya Sikand this morning."

I was working and listening this afternoon and if I work til about 10pm tonight I have tomorrow and Friday morning to watch the tribunal. Then I must get at least half the weeks work sent off to head office by Friday afternoon.

"Morgan Page's email explanation of the cotton ceiling confirms what is obvious to everyone other than Garden Court Chambers witness Maya Sikand this morning."
Bring MS back on the stand!!!!

@john20 I get to rock up to my office two days a week to piss about with reports and glare at a skip bag that I can see from the window that's been full and sat outside a house for the past 8 weeks. It's annoying me.

@ifIwerenotanandroid I'm also a tribunal crocheter 🙂

MS is probably stocking pins in a miniature BC voodoo doll.

Judy Khan is only tomorrow as she's got her murder starting on Monday. She could possibly spill over into Friday morning but Hochhauser has to leave for a funeral at 11.30. Funeral presumed to be unconnected to the murder.

Is Judy Khan another QC, what part did she play in all this?

I should think the tribunal will still sit, Idisagree, with JR in AH's seat. He doesn't want to miss any bit of SH QC, her evidence must be critical.

JK is one of the current Heads of Chambers I think, along with SH and one other.

‘Funeral presumed to be unconnected to the murder.’

I wouldn’t be so sure.

I listen to it while I'm doing other things. Last week I painted this while I was listening to it!

Hi!

I tried tidying up while listening, but that was too distracting. (That's my excuse, anyway.)

Sorry that came out sideways!

I have to agree.

If I was looking for a set of chambers to give legal work to, they would be well down my list, below Gomez Addams conducting his own case in court in "Addams Family Values"

They come across as inept, ill-prepared, arrogantprjetty damn useless all round.

Appalonia, that's beautiful!

Won't be showing my artwork: I was getting to know some new ink blocks I bought this week. Great fun, but I'm definitely not in control of them yet. (Inktense)

@Appalonia it's a fitting homage to My Lovely Horse! Wonderful.

Meanwhile, I've been editing the same piece of work all week, gawping at this thread agog.

Did anyone else think it was very easy for MS to follow AH's long questions but seemed fiendishly difficult for her to understand BC?

The reason her questioning went on for so long is entirely her fault. I am sorry she was a good friend to Allison. It must be very painful listening to that.

Ah yes sorry, it must have been JK that AH didn't want to miss.