Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 7

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.

On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

This exchange about the data request is revealing.

Just saw that my name caused comment!

It is a name I've used on here for a while - and daily since the beginning of the tribunal too. It is a quote from 'The Princess Bride' - not any kind of comment on the tribunal.

Who suddenly thought they were being called out for lies?

From my experience a SAR leading to full disclosure, at least at first go, is very much the exception rather than the rule.

Who suddenly thought they were being called out for lies?

@LiesDoNotBecomeUs

Liars?? ;-)

From my experience a SAR leading to full disclosure, at least at first go, is very much the exception rather than the rule

Could you expand on that @nauticant ? I don't know what you mean.

Lovely BC pause there.

If she's not a lawyer, what is she? (sorry!)

I think you are right!
(This could be useful evidence)

Lovely BC pause there.

It was SPECTACULAR, wasn't it?

(I do love BC question tags!)

He does the best pauses.

I'm talking about this Gabcsika: ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/your-right-to-get-copies-of-your-data/ and the fact that you can submit your request and very often the company etc that receives your request will either not provide everything or not provide anything.

How about that for a contrast between testimony given by barristers and testimony given by a non-barrister. It was like the sun suddenly burning away thick impenetrable fog.

Who knew that barristers would have found so much difficulty with the concepts of clarity and truth, as well as being able to interact in a respectful manner?

I was in a work meeting and got kicked out. Glad you're all here or I wouldn't have logged back in.

Gutted I am missing spectacular Ben pauses. :(

No questions for MHL from IO, Stonewall's barrister.
Some questions from JR/AH, GCC's barrister/junior

HR.

Well Mia Hakl Law was a breath of fresh air as a witness. She answered quickly and concisely.

Judy Khan to be called as a witness.

BC not expecting JK as witness. Takes time to get head in to each persons particular witness statement.

E Judge Goodman looks exasperated

Horse trading over timings with an agreement to stop now and to commence at 9.30 tomorrow.

Judy Khan up next!
Ben needs to get in the right headspace...

we start at 9.30 tomorrow morning.

Starting 9:30 tomorrow with J Khan.

Next witness tomorrow morning (Thursday):
Judy Khan QC from Garden Court Chambers
www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/barristers/judy-khan-qc/sao
"Judy Khan QC has experience of criminal defence work across a wide spectrum of criminal cases. She has been instructed as leading counsel in cases involving allegations of murder, attempted murder, kidnap, fraud, money laundering and large-scale importation/supply of drugs.
She also has extensive experience of cases involving sexual allegations, including historical sexual abuse. Judy finds representing young and vulnerable defendants particularly rewarding.
She spent two years representing a number of families at the Hillsborough Inquests; she led a team of barristers who dealt with the medical and pathology evidence. She has also defended, both as leading and junior counsel, in cases involving allegations of baby-shaking.
Judy won Crime Silk of the Year at the Chambers Bar Awards 2019.
Judy is a criminal silk and her practice crosses a spectrum of serious crime. She is predominantly briefed in murder cases, often involving gang-related killings committed by young defendants. She also specialises in cases involving serious sexual allegations."

So am I, (am allegedly working but really I'm following here) soooo in the movie I expect alllllll of the spectacular pauses as well as the drama.