Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 6

[ickky]

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets
Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

I’m glad it’s not just me 😆

Yes please, I haven't a clue what it means!

Just tried to get the met office app open on my phone to see if it's going to rain and typed in Stonewall.

Cannot multitask it seems.

Thank You for the new thread.

Not just you!

I think they thought ‘nauticant’ could be otherwise read as ‘naughty cunt’. But never ever would I ever read it like that.

I get that the unprofessionalism might perhaps be tactically useful for Stonewall.

But why are their lawyers going along with it? Doesn’t it backfire on their professional reputations?

Judge's phone going off. Not sure why she would be in a room with a phone that was switched on.

Please could someone explain how ‘Nauticant’ could be, ahem, ‘misinterpreted’? Thank you.

I think the person/people complaining are reading it as 'naughty cunt'.

Thanks for the new thread @ickky

Ah, ok thanks.

Is there a break at the moment? I logged in to hear the tribunal but can't hear anything..

No it's on, I would leave and try again.

I've now got an ear worm of Bob Hoskins saying something disgusting, like betrayal😆

Thank you, do I enter with camera and mic off?

Presumably this person knew their was a lot of reading and could have brought along their own coloured overlay, as an alternative to coloured paper.

No as that will cut the audio and camera feed from the tribunal.

Select none at the second stage to turn yours off.

Really, really weird that someone not nauticant logged in with that name and someone else complained about it, as if orchestrated. But not at all surprising that TRAs read the name like that. 🙄 They would, wouldn’t they?

lol - thanks - I've led a sheltered life!

Might not have one. I think BC has given the references in advance. There aren't 6000 pages printed out there.

I think BC has given the references in advance.

Is that not giving an unfair advantage?

If these tribunals are the new norm they need to develop rules about camera shots. It's highly unfair in my opinion that the vast majority of witnesses have been on a Mid shot when you can of course see their facial reactions, while the Stonewall witnesses look like they're in the next village. It might seem a small point but it creates an advantage for them and shouldn't be allowed. Another example of dirty tactics or pure incompetence.

Props to nauticant for the awesome name...DifficultBloodyWoman, it's a very similar concept to your own, it's all in the pronunciation But start with nauti sounds the same as naughty and go from there <3

I couldn't possibly comment, Tasteful...

‘GrimDamnFanjo’ - 😂