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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 6

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ickky · 16/05/2022 10:52

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets
Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

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ickky · 17/05/2022 13:58

I thought I was a special VIP for a minute there, I got in early again, but then it chucked me out to the lobby. 😄

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Appalonia · 17/05/2022 13:59

Ha it chucked me out too!

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 17/05/2022 14:01

ickky · 17/05/2022 13:58

I thought I was a special VIP for a minute there, I got in early again, but then it chucked me out to the lobby. 😄

Is your sign in name Iccky QC?

Chrysanthemum5 · 17/05/2022 14:01

Yes I was in and then it chucked me out!

CatsOperatingInGangs · 17/05/2022 14:03

Where’s the soothing voice man gone? I too was in then out.

ickky · 17/05/2022 14:05

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 17/05/2022 14:01

Is your sign in name Iccky QC?

😄no

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katmarie · 17/05/2022 14:06

Crikey, serious stuff.

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 17/05/2022 14:06

Another serious matter.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 17/05/2022 14:06

More arge-y bargy...

Signalbox · 17/05/2022 14:07

Someone's in trouble!

ickky · 17/05/2022 14:07

Someone enquiring about a Tribunal Member on Facebook, don't know what, but it could be intimidation.

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LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 17/05/2022 14:07

What happened? I was bounced out and missed it.

CatsOperatingInGangs · 17/05/2022 14:08

I swear some people think this hearing is Twitter and everyone is fair game. This is shocking that someone is posting about the Tribunal members on Facebook.

nauticant · 17/05/2022 14:09

IIIRC, messages have been posted on a facebook group seemingly digging into the background of a member of the tribunal including discussing their political interests, and address information. The tribunal is collecting evidence and deciding what action to take.

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 17/05/2022 14:09

Someone on Facebook saying something about the political affiliations of a tribunal member. Don't know what it's about and better not say any more as don't want to be accused of anything untoward myself.

Signalbox · 17/05/2022 14:09

Judge said someone on Facebook was linking a tribunal member to a political party or something. Said they had been in the tribunal. Said they should stop their enquiries immediately.

ickky · 17/05/2022 14:10

nauticant · 17/05/2022 14:09

IIIRC, messages have been posted on a facebook group seemingly digging into the background of a member of the tribunal including discussing their political interests, and address information. The tribunal is collecting evidence and deciding what action to take.

😮Why would they want their address? That is a bit worrying.

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NoImAVeronica · 17/05/2022 14:10

Yes I was in straight away, watched a lady drink a cup of tea for a bit before being unceremoniously booted out again. Back in now.

Cuck00soup · 17/05/2022 14:11

Signing into a new thread. Trying to look interested in a teams meeting at the same time.

Thank You as always for the insights.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 17/05/2022 14:11

From TT:
EJ: serious matter. Messages pasted on FB page of one of the witnesses - threats. One person has been identified and has been listed as viewing the proceedings. Investigations underway

Was it a witness or a tribunal member?

nauticant · 17/05/2022 14:12

I'm wondering if I made that up but I do think that's what I heard. I thought I heard a reference to an office address. I'm more than happy to be corrected.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 17/05/2022 14:12

Is this social-media interruption another attempt to get the courtroom closed or just foolish innocence about the rules?

NoImAVeronica · 17/05/2022 14:12

Good grief 🙁

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 17/05/2022 14:13

Maybe TT got mixed up with the purported threats to a witness from last week?

nauticant · 17/05/2022 14:14

One thing EJ did say is that one person in the facebook group has been identified and the tribunal was able to see they had been an observer.

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