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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A trans-Identified BDSM fan/gun nut is now a senior leader at Girlguiding

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Scraggythang · 23/11/2021 10:59

Via Glinner’s sub stack. Sorry if this has already been posted!

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/wtf-are-girlguiding-thinking

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OhDear2200 · 23/11/2021 11:03

Fucking hell.

What do I do as a parent of a guide?

I’m so angry. The last bit?!?!

Helleofabore · 23/11/2021 11:03

You might find this thread of interest, too.

Thanks for posting the Glinner link.

Nameyourkidhurricane · 23/11/2021 11:03

I would be interested in a female senior girl guiding leader posting photos like that to see if she is celebrated as much, or (more likely) removed from her position.

Scraggythang · 23/11/2021 11:04

I have a feeling, judging by the other thread, this might get zapped.

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Helleofabore · 23/11/2021 11:05

@OhDear2200

Fucking hell.

What do I do as a parent of a guide?

I’m so angry. The last bit?!?!

I have written to them as a GG parent.

If you can do so, I recommend it. Focus on the sexual nature of their social media and if you mention guns, keep it relevant to guides (safety etc).

Helleofabore · 23/11/2021 11:06

Doh. Didn’t post the link.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4271810-Girlguides-is-it-a-lost-cause

catsareme14 · 23/11/2021 11:07

This is so depressing. I'm guessing there is nothing parents can do except withdraw their children ? Does this person have contact with the young people or is it an admin position? Not sure it makes much difference judging by the photos .

Scraggythang · 23/11/2021 11:10

@Nameyourkidhurricane I think a women in charge of children posting pictures like this would be dragged through the press.

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Scraggythang · 23/11/2021 11:13

[email protected]

[email protected]

If you want to email them.

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Scraggythang · 23/11/2021 11:14

As mentioned in the comments of this article, it may be of interest to the relevant press. Especially with the recent interest in Stonewall.

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PastMyBestBeforeDate · 23/11/2021 11:15

Sorry, posted without comment but the code of conduct and linked policies may be useful to refer to in any complaint. Also links to process.

ScreamingMeMe · 23/11/2021 11:16

[quote Scraggythang]@Nameyourkidhurricane I think a women in charge of children posting pictures like this would be dragged through the press.[/quote]
A teacher who had an OnlyFans account certainly was.

Scraggythang · 23/11/2021 11:18

@ScreamingMeMe exactly what I was thinking of. I’m sure there are various other examples.

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DinoDinner · 23/11/2021 11:46

Thread like this make me hope the Daily Mail are lurking about! This story is so mad it's genuinely unbelievable!

But is it a surprise? Sadly no!

Hiding in plain sight!

Rightsraptor · 23/11/2021 11:53

I've complained to GGUK and I have no links whatsoever to them. It's the most basic failure of safeguarding and everyone who cares at all about children should complain also. If allowed to continue this will not end well.

viques · 23/11/2021 12:06

Email sent to the inclusion address given above.

I was not a gg, never even made it to Brownies, but I think an organisation to encourages self esteem and independence in young women is an excellent principle. Unfortunately the GG appear to have lost their moral compass and are now completely lost in the TRA forest.

What next, Ghislaine Maxwell heading up Scouting?

Chloemol · 23/11/2021 12:12

Unbelievable

How good would it be if everyone refused to send their child to guides now

EyesOpening · 23/11/2021 12:27

Does this person have contact with the young people or is it an admin position? Not sure it makes much difference judging by the photos.

Safe Schools Alliance have tweeted photos, one taken from the aforementioned person’s Twitter account, dressed in the uniform, talking about having been helping at the Scout campsite (presumably used not only Scouts) and mentioning what the girls had been doing.

ItsSnowJokes · 23/11/2021 12:31

People should remove their girls from GG. You need to hit these people at the core. When you remove them tell them exactly why. They don't listen to emails and letters etc......

I have refused my 2 girls rainbows, brownies and guides as I do not trust these organisations to keep my girls safe.

GreyhoundG1rl · 23/11/2021 12:34

@Scraggythang

I have a feeling, judging by the other thread, this might get zapped.
The other one was zapped?! Angry
Scraggythang · 23/11/2021 12:35

@GreyhoundG1rl no, but some links posted and various posts were as far as I can tell.

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Bonheurdupasse · 23/11/2021 12:35

What the hell

Beckert · 23/11/2021 12:59

I think people should pull their girls out of guides, rainbows and brownies. This is not what guiding leadership should be about.

VelvetChairGirl · 23/11/2021 13:02

is this the end game? get women to shut themselves out of opportunities by fear and intimidation? its what abusive partners do, pressure you out of a job, out of seeing friends etc and then pretend it was your choice.

it all seems similar in terms of tactics, get women to silence and marginalize themselves, the slow drip drip, if you push them out of clubs at a young age that would increase self esteem and confidence. marginalize them at school and make them feel wrong for not conforming to gender stereotypes and shout them down at college or uni for having boundaries and opinions, then you have set them up for a lifetime of low pay and subservience.