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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A trans-Identified BDSM fan/gun nut is now a senior leader at Girlguiding

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Scraggythang · 23/11/2021 10:59

Via Glinner’s sub stack. Sorry if this has already been posted!

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/wtf-are-girlguiding-thinking

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barleybadminton · 18/12/2021 22:57

Little wonder that the numbers of members of girl guides has plummeted.

Hardly plummeted, fell by about 4% according to the most recent pre-covid annual report. There's still nearly half a million of them. That's not bad considering the Scouts now admits girls and has attracted over 65,000 - and girls are now signing up to join the Scouts in greater numbers than boys.

barleybadminton · 18/12/2021 23:03

Frankly, just the image of the ‘in the bath’ in front of the line up of small girls showing faces should have been enough.

Why are you so sure she is in the bath in that image. It's not very clear to me. All it shows is her neck, and a tiny bit of shoulder (the rampant hussey!!!). Oh well I expect Baden Powell would approve of this thread even if the rest of the organisations he influenced have moved on.

titchy · 18/12/2021 23:05

- and girls are now signing up to join the Scouts in greater numbers than boys.

Interesting. A 4% drop in numbers. It's seems they're choosing Scouts rather than Guides. I wonder why...

Helleofabore · 18/12/2021 23:06

And if people cannot draw the connection between an ‘in the bath’ shot in the profile and other posts of a sexual nature with the banner of a line up of small girls in their party dresses (and identifiable little girls too), then you are either very naive or simply determined to not see how that works. With a profile name referencing teabagging.

Mmmm… other males looking at sexually proactive images and messages on a profile with a sexual name….. and little girls….

Nothing to see here. We are all pearl clutching prudes.

Absolutely a one off single photo that is the issue.

Again, please continue. Because those reading along can see the degree to which you are determined to minimise.

And this person would not be losing their ‘career’. They are a bus driver. They would be losing a position of authority over both young girls and other leaders of young girls.

And to repeat. If this person has such low sexual boundaries and cannot show that they know to not post images of young girls amongst their sexualised images, how are they going to lead others to recognise what is appropriate and what is not?

Or is having sexualised content along side pictures of young girls acceptable now because kink and festish is good and everyday. ….

Cheshirewife · 18/12/2021 23:08

The amount of scaremongering and silt was about this is quite incredible.

As a GG parent, afraid I couldn’t care less.

Helleofabore · 18/12/2021 23:10

Why are you so sure she is in the bath in that image. It's not very clear to me.

Because I saw the original before it got locked down. There was a larger version that I saw within the thread.

And does it even matter if it was a different photo? You are missing the entire point. The tweet thread had a series of sexualised images and messages, the name referenced teabagging, the weapon handling - all with a line up of young girls in their party dresses?

And more ‘prude’ references? Please do persist. We will keep going. You have not convinced anyone.

Helleofabore · 18/12/2021 23:10

@Cheshirewife

The amount of scaremongering and silt was about this is quite incredible.

As a GG parent, afraid I couldn’t care less.

That is fine. As a GG parent and helper, I do care.
Helleofabore · 18/12/2021 23:12

I know of two local groups that have not had the numbers to start again after covid.

VestofAbsurdity · 18/12/2021 23:15

Anything and everything excused when 'trans', the sacred caste syndrome and history tells us just how well that has worked out.

334bu · 18/12/2021 23:18

As a GG parent, afraid I couldn’t care less.

Good luck explaining teabagging.

barleybadminton · 18/12/2021 23:19

@Helleofabore

Why are you so sure she is in the bath in that image. It's not very clear to me.

Because I saw the original before it got locked down. There was a larger version that I saw within the thread.

And does it even matter if it was a different photo? You are missing the entire point. The tweet thread had a series of sexualised images and messages, the name referenced teabagging, the weapon handling - all with a line up of young girls in their party dresses?

And more ‘prude’ references? Please do persist. We will keep going. You have not convinced anyone.

The name did not reference teabagging, that's a complete invention. They called themselves Monica Tetley, there could be all kinds of reaons for that, the assumption it must automatically be a sexual reference says more about the sordid minds of her accusers than her.

I don't believe you saw the original and it was different. All of the pics from her social media have been widely published by gender critical activists and are all over the internet. It's clearly a facebook profile pic, it is in no way explicit and it's impossible to tell whether she's in a bath.

Helleofabore · 18/12/2021 23:25

I did see a full image without the frame that is applied in the profile shot.

How amazing you saw everything that I saw before I complained, which was before it hit mainstream and before the profiles were locked down.

But do crack on, as I say. You are constant in your minimizing and twisting.

Do you know this person in real life then? Is that why you are so invested in deflections, disparagement and minimising?

334bu · 18/12/2021 23:25

So now we're the ones being kink shamed! Bad women, sluts one and all. How dare you misrepresent a totally anodyne name and maybe nude, maybe not profile pic! Who do you think you are ?Grin

WomanStillNotAFeeling · 18/12/2021 23:27

So now you think we’re both prudes and sordid?

Any know if thats a full house of snidey insults from barleybadminton with the pearl clutching and others earlier?

Helleofabore · 18/12/2021 23:28

We are also liars. Don’t forget to add that to the mix.

334bu · 18/12/2021 23:30

We haven't had the "bad " esbians being just as much of a safeguarding issue to girls as a person of the opposite sex.

Helleofabore · 18/12/2021 23:32

How can we be sordid and prudes?

334bu · 18/12/2021 23:33

Esbians? Well I'm sure you know who I mean.

334bu · 18/12/2021 23:35

How can we be sordid and prudes?

Well if" lesbians" can be male then anything is possible, isn't it?

Helleofabore · 18/12/2021 23:57

I take it that barley didn’t see the social media accounts before they disappeared.

Yes. The original didn’t show much from just above the nipple. I believe the shot I saw had another inviting message (I could be wrong about the message). But they had a white inflatable style, maybe shell like pillow behind their head.

But…. No. I am lying. And of course I never went through the accounts myself… just grabbed the information from others.

I’ve said to you before, do you ever read back what you write?

Yes. I did see the full image. I take the time to check original sources for as much as I possibly can before I post things. I try not to rely on other people’s interpretation of things. Certainly not social media influencers without any expertise. So, no. I am quite happy if you find the full size original to be proved wrong.

In the meantime, I am happy my memory of it is quite correct. I would not mention it if I wasn’t.

Datun · 19/12/2021 00:07

So now you think we’re both prudes and sordid?

🤣🤣🤣 it's hilarious.

We are rude, sordid, pearl clutching prudes 😂

TurquoiseBaubles · 19/12/2021 00:12

Fucking hell.

Let's minimise. And then minimise some more. And then do a bit of whataboutery. and then quote a few safeguarding "scenarios that aren't too serious and just need an informal chat" and then suggest that GG are a bit short of leaders anyway Shock

As someone who has first hand experience of both the Irish Catholic Church and the Swimming Coaches of Ireland (yes, do google), I'm not prepared to do any minimising. Or what ifs. Or benefit of doubts.

Red flags are just that, red flags. The biggest red flag of all is the minimising of red flags. Recognition of a potential problem is the first step to fixing it; minimising a potential problem, pretending it's not really a problem leads to disaster.

Helleofabore · 19/12/2021 00:14

And you know barley how on fb you can click on a profile pic and you know, see the original pic….

And those profile shots are kept in albums and all too?

All publicly available.

ArabellaScott · 19/12/2021 09:35

The biggest red flag of all is the minimising of red flags

Absofuckinglutely

Esspee · 19/12/2021 09:38

I would be pulling my children out and writing to the pack leader, regional headquarters and head office to explain why.

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