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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lammy… again!

214 replies

Sexnotgender · 29/09/2021 09:49

Apparently an adult male can get a cervix through hormones and surgery!

Who knew?

I’m equally embarrassed for him and bloody livid that this moron is in government.

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endofagain · 29/09/2021 10:51

I wish the sensible women in the labour party would set up a separate party. I would vote for them. I am disenfranchised at the moment, just as women were disenfranchised a hundred years ago. There is just a different way of achieving it this time.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 29/09/2021 10:53

This is him on Radio 5 today. Well worth a listen/watch. Don't throw anything...

Fitt · 29/09/2021 10:54

Why does Lammy consider his ageism to be a legitimate form of prejudice?

TatoAndBeans · 29/09/2021 10:55

[quote PurgatoryOfPotholes]This is him on Radio 5 today. Well worth a listen/watch. Don't throw anything...

[/quote] I value my crockery too much…
JojobaFromOctober · 29/09/2021 10:56

Surely the next question someone needs to ask him is "What is a cervix?" Could be enlightening to hear the answer.

It's as embarrassing as those people who think women piss out of their vaginas or can hold their periods in or something. Aren't women mysterious!

RoyalCorgi · 29/09/2021 10:59

It's interesting that he's waded into the debate without understanding it. Say what you like about Emily Thornberry, but she has understood that the objection to the phrase "only women have cervixes" is that trans men also have a cervix. Lammy hasn't grasped this at all, so he thinks it's about trans women having medical procedures to create a cervix. Which would, frankly, be insane. What's the point in having a cervix if you haven't got a uterus?

TheElementsSong · 29/09/2021 10:59

To be fair, Lammy probably thinks "vaginas = fuck-holes for the all-important cock" then "cervixes = ends of fuck-hole for the all-important cock" Angry

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 29/09/2021 11:00

I've checked and David Lammy is old enough to be my father. So surely he's the dinosaur, not me?

7H9g5Kj · 29/09/2021 11:00

He sounds very transphobic as he clearly thinks transwomen aren’t women, judging by that ludicrous answer.

WomaninBoots · 29/09/2021 11:00

That's a very good point Jojoba... how many of these politicians getting flustered by the population distribution of the cervix could actually find one on a map.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 29/09/2021 11:01

@RoyalCorgi

It's interesting that he's waded into the debate without understanding it. Say what you like about Emily Thornberry, but she has understood that the objection to the phrase "only women have cervixes" is that trans men also have a cervix. Lammy hasn't grasped this at all, so he thinks it's about trans women having medical procedures to create a cervix. Which would, frankly, be insane. What's the point in having a cervix if you haven't got a uterus?
Maybe he has it confused with clitoris. Both things that only women have, beginning with c.

Or maybe the other c-word.

Threewheeler1 · 29/09/2021 11:04

I was listening to him wittering on about violence against women and all the super-duper things Labour would do to keep women safe. Funny that he hasn't quite made the link between self-id and obliterating the fucking meagre safeguards women currently have. I nearly bit into my coffee mug listening to his hypocrisy. Still, no surprises here from Labour really.
endofagain Yes to disenfranchised women setting up a party. Impossible in this climate but we can dream.

TheWeeDonkey · 29/09/2021 11:05

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow

Labour are taking up the space where an opposition should be

Exactly right. They are a dying party - deservedly so.

Hear hear
PiglingBlonde · 29/09/2021 11:07

www.cityam.com/city-lawyers-would-be-forced-to-give-free-help-to-rape-victims-under-labour/

@TatoAndBeans It seems to be a back of the fag packet policy.

Fitt · 29/09/2021 11:18

What a fucking arse. I really wouldn't want a corporate lawyer bumbling around a rape case. Does Lammy think defence criminal barristers will give them an easy ride?

Idiotic.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 29/09/2021 11:18

It really does show how little men actually know about female bodies.

So much daylight being shone this week though. The fact it's all over tv and newspapers and no longer being so censored is great.

JustcameoutGC · 29/09/2021 11:19

Intersteing how he can trot out stats on trans suicide rates at the drop of a hat, but has no fucking clue what a cervix is.

Absolute moron.

Imnobody4 · 29/09/2021 11:26

David Lammy now trending on twitter. He's appalling on the Radio 5 interview, absolutely desperate. Can only berate the interviewer for asking about women's rights instead of something more important.

SickAndTiredAgain · 29/09/2021 11:28

@RoyalCorgi

It's interesting that he's waded into the debate without understanding it. Say what you like about Emily Thornberry, but she has understood that the objection to the phrase "only women have cervixes" is that trans men also have a cervix. Lammy hasn't grasped this at all, so he thinks it's about trans women having medical procedures to create a cervix. Which would, frankly, be insane. What's the point in having a cervix if you haven't got a uterus?
Exactly.

When asked that question about the phrase “only women have a cervix” why do so many politicians bring up transwomen? The sentence has nothing to do with transwomen - the sentence “all women have a cervix” would involve discussions around transwomen.

Fitt · 29/09/2021 11:31

All the extra rapists your tax lawyers prosecute can go into women's prisons can't they Lammy?

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 29/09/2021 11:36

In the radio 5 interview, David seems to be saying white female constituents aren't entitled to tell him how they feel about their rights because he's black. So we can tell a white MP, right?

Can black women tell him they want single-sex prisons? Or did he forget black women existed when he was setting it up as a white woman vs black man issue?

Please note that he also wants more black men in parliament and affirmative action to get them in there. He has said this. Now I absolutely had no issue with that until today's interview, when I heard that white women weren't allowed to talk about women's rights to black male MPs or black male Shadow Ministers for Justice.

Seems poor value for his wage, right?

Joystir59 · 29/09/2021 11:39

When you think of the role a real cervix plays in the protection of the foetus and the birth of a baby, it's such an insult to pretend that men can get one made.

TatoAndBeans · 29/09/2021 11:40

@PiglingBlonde

www.cityam.com/city-lawyers-would-be-forced-to-give-free-help-to-rape-victims-under-labour/

@TatoAndBeans It seems to be a back of the fag packet policy.

Aren’t they all… Hmm
Jaysmith71 · 29/09/2021 11:42

[quote PurgatoryOfPotholes]This is him on Radio 5 today. Well worth a listen/watch. Don't throw anything...

[/quote] When I click on that link, I get taken to an ad featuring Neil Degrasse Tyson saying:

One of the great challenges of a subject is knowing enough to think you're right, but not enough to know you're wrong....

JojobaFromOctober · 29/09/2021 11:44

I also wonder if he thinks that a 'neophallus' is a penis. He might well say that he did in public because he'd realise that was the party line. But I sincerely doubt that ANY man would ever actually think that an artificially constructed appendage that had to be pumped up to achieve some resemblance to an erection, couldn't ejaculate, couldn't impregnate a woman, wouldn't experience the same sensations, might well not even be fully functional as something to piss through was in any way the equivalent of their own sex organ.

Yet I really believe that a significant number of men genuinely think that a hole in a body located between the legs that could theoretically be penetrated is pretty much the same thing as female genitalia. Maybe not EXACTLY the same, but pretty much, the details are trivial in their minds. And unless they want a baby they don't give a shit about any other part of that reproductive system, just the hole, that's all that matters. Even then, why ever bother to learn about all the disgusting details like ovaries, fallopian tubes, cervixes, clitorises?

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