Lammy… again!

[Sexnotgender]

Apparently an adult male can get a cervix through hormones and surgery!

Who knew?

I’m equally embarrassed for him and bloody livid that this moron is in government.

David Lammy's trumpcard seems to be what his ancestors went through. (Whether he realises that 50% of them were women, and that their sex would have added an extra dimension to what they were subjected to, is an open question.)

David Lammy was also born in 1972. Let's think about some rights women didn't have until after he was born.

Women being able to drink without a male chaperone in pubs? 1982.

What else?

Camilla Long in today's Times;
MP David Lammy basically said he’d heard a rumour that a cervix is something “you can have following hormone treatment and all the rest”. You just thought: has he ever been near one? And these are the people who make our laws.

Just had to share this.

(PS The Matrix Director has a new name 🧐)

Isn’t it both brothers with new names OhHolyJesus?

@Helleofabore

Isn’t it both brothers with new names OhHolyJesus?

I believe so. You could almost imagine there was a competitive element to their sibling rivalry...

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

David Lammy's trumpcard seems to be what his ancestors went through. (Whether he realises that 50% of them were women, and that their sex would have added an extra dimension to what they were subjected to, is an open question.)

David Lammy was also born in 1972. Let's think about some rights women didn't have until after he was born.

Women being able to drink without a male chaperone in pubs? 1982.

What else?

If Mr Lammy weren't so ignorant he would know two things: that white people have been slaves in many countries over a period of centuries and that slavery continues to exist in Asia and Africa.

Furthermore, Britain led the way in the anti-slavery movement and the current anti-modern slavery Act (can't recall the exact name) was the work of a white woman in a Conservative government.

Too bad Mr Lammy didn't learn history in his expensive school or at SOAS.

I should add that the Slavery Abolition Act was promulgated in 1833 - almost two hundred years ago. Let's play Oppression Olympics regarding women's rights, shall we? Let's see who is more oppressed, Mr Lammy.

Your move, Mr Lammy.

As I alluded to elsewhere, at the time Lammy was born, Afro-Carribbeans were in total control of Guyanese politics at the expense of the more numerous Asians (brought over to work the sugar cane fields in place of the Africans.) The indiginous Amerindians meanwhile, continue to be treated like wildlife rather than people.

It is not a competition between racism and misogyny. It was something Lammy used as a cheap shot to shut down a woman asking him questions and highlighting his misogyny and ignorance. All the while he was trying to pretend he was an expert on women's bodies being nowt much as you can grow the bits just as easily as be born with them. And women's rights and safety wasn't important to anyone really. Wasn't one of the important subjects he had self id's as much more important. By doing so, he cheapened and badly misused the issue of racism.

I wonder would he still have tried to do it if the presenter had been a black woman. I think my immediate response would have been that I wasn't going to take lectures from a man on how other males could become women. Especially when he was talking such unadulterated shite.

@Jaysmith71

As I alluded to elsewhere, at the time Lammy was born, Afro-Carribbeans were in total control of Guyanese politics at the expense of the more numerous Asians (brought over to work the sugar cane fields in place of the Africans.) The indiginous Amerindians meanwhile, continue to be treated like wildlife rather than people.

Yes. I know someone fairly well who was tipped to Prime Minister of Guyana. He's Afro-Caribbean. Now that I think about it, I know quite a few Guyanese, which is odd because it's such a small country.

Funny (peculiar) double-standard I just noticed.

Because women have historically been oppressed as a class, we are seen as morally obliged to listen and provide solidarity to any other class experiencing oppression. You see this in claims that feminism must centre transwomen, f'r instance.

Now, look at David Lammy again. He is arguing that because he belongs to a class that has historically been oppressed, he doesn't have to listen or provide solidarity to any other class experiencing oppression.

Strange how that works.

Do as I say, not as I do.

Yes, Purgatory. It was a big FY to women. Well we're nothing real anyway as any male can just be fitted out with synthetic hormones and surgery and voila, apparently.

Would DL be so 'magic thinking' about it if a male Rachel Dolezal said that a regular UV treatment and some surgical hair extensions made them the same as DL. Doubt it somehow.

Certainly when women bodies function differently from men's. The difference is very real, not just an outward appearance.

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Funny (peculiar) double-standard I just noticed.

Because women have historically been oppressed as a class, we are seen as morally obliged to listen and provide solidarity to any other class experiencing oppression. You see this in claims that feminism must centre transwomen, f'r instance.

Now, look at David Lammy again. He is arguing that because he belongs to a class that has historically been oppressed, he doesn't have to listen or provide solidarity to any other class experiencing oppression.

Strange how that works.

Oooh that's so true. Exactly that. I hadn't actually seen it like that but yeah.