MtF sets 4 new world records in women's power lifting

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www.cornwalllive.com/news/local-news/sharron-davies-dismay-trans-powerlifter-2809964

Absolute disgrace. Absolute fucking disgrace.

I know transwomen are not popular around mumsnet, but this individual worked as hard for this record as any of her peers did. I don't think your perspectives on transwomen not really being women should not detract from her accomplishment.

It's cheating - not winning women's records.

If she’d worked as hard as her ‘peers’ did she’d be smashing male world records.

This persons peers lift in the mens class - sports are sex segregated. That is supported by the Equality Act.

Not a female. Not a woman's record. Achievement null and void on those grounds. Lots of damage to women and lots of offense taken.

Who IS that poster leaving handfuls of Kleenex all over every thread?

Unflushable - none of her peers went through a male puberty and had their bodies flooded with testosterone for years building muscle mass, high density bones and increased heart and lung capacity.

Unflushable. Lols not environment friendly that’s for sure.

It's the end of women's sports

this individual worked as hard for this record as any of her peers did.

I think you’ll find, with this individual having a male body, with denser, longer and stronger bones, a larger heart and larger lung capacity, more muscle mass, etc, they really didn’t have to work as the females.

This isn’t about trans people being accepted, this is about those with Male bodies having a natural unfair advantage over females.

Unflushable - none of her peers went through a male puberty and had their bodies flooded with testosterone for years building muscle mass, high density bones and increased heart and lung capacity.

I've had countless arguments with women who have told me that men are not physically stronger than women, and that women are just as strong as men when they train. If that's true, then this person did not have any biological advantage and her achievements are just as worthy of recognition as her peers.

this individual worked as hard for this record as any of her peers did

No. They didn't. They stole the record that one of their "peers" (hint: not peers) should have one by utilising a grossly unfair biological advantage.

I don't think your perspectives on transwomen not really being women should not detract from her accomplishment.

If they go and smash the record in the category appropriate for their sex class, I'll break out the bubbly for them. Until then, the perspective that they aren't really a woman is literally the entire reason this "accomplishment" is ridiculous and offensives.

If that's true...

It's not.

Sorry - didn't realise that the OP is a GF.

Standing down to grey rock .....

I've had countless arguments with women who have told me that men are not physically stronger than women, and that women are just as strong as men when they train.

That just proves that some woke women can be pretty bloody stupid. Anyway, if you’re arguing that they’re wrong, why don’t you have an issue with a person with a male body winning?

God, that’s ridiculous. I don’t know how they live with themselves. If you look at the world records of women and men, men can lift SO much more than women.

It’s completely unfair that a born man can compete with women in fucking weightlifting.

Ooops - sorry OP - not you - wrong person

I've had countless arguments with women who have told me that men are not physically stronger than women, and that women are just as strong as men when they train.

Guess we'll be seeing the men's power lifting record being smashed by a trans man any day then... I'm waiting... Tell ya what, when that happens, when FtM athletes start smashing male records and dominating male sports, then I'll take back all my objections. Not that I'll need to of course because if that mythical day ever comes you better believe some laws will be put in place right bloody quick to prevent it.

Anyway, if you’re arguing that they’re wrong, why don’t you have an issue with a person with a male body winning?

But if they think they're right, then why do they take issue with this person winning?

why don’t you have an issue with a person with a male body winning?

I know almost nothing about upper body strength, weight lifting, and the differences between the sexes, so it's not my place to decide whether this person should have this record, or not have it. That's for weight lifters to decide.

It's still a good achievement though! Weight lifting is hard work.

If that's true, then this person did not have any biological advantage

It's not true. They did have a biological advantage. If men didn't have a biological advantage the records for each weight category would be the same. They're not.

Has anyone sent this to Zuby?

I've had countless arguments with women who have told me that men are not physically stronger than women, and that women are just as strong as men when they train.

Women or transwomen?

Women or transwomen?

Women.

for the aptly named unflushable

For everyone else, women's sports is dead. Our achievements have been neutered. Our safeguards have been dismantled. Our spaces have been infiltrated. Our children have been threatened. Our bodies have been censored. Our history has been rewritten. Our lives have been erased. This whole trans saga has been the single clearest proof I've ever seen that men hate women, women hate women, politicians hate women, and that society in general will do anything, even rewrite the laws of biology, before they give a damn about our welfare. I'm done with this shit.

I'm with you, I believe we need to carry on honouring women, whatever the personal consequences.