Maria Miller on Twitter

[MenstruatorExtraordinaire]

twitter.com/MariaMillerUK/status/1105568497516642306?s=19

Maria is getting absolutely ratioed here if anybody is on Twitter I would pop over there and have a look it's a joyous thing to behold

I do think Civil Servants need to be looked at very thoroughly. Also the lobby groups who have huge power in the government.

And I'm hoping MPs like Maria Miller and Penny Mordaunt have the sense now to work out that they've both been utterly played. By the Civil Service and the lobby groups.

Yes Miller and Mordaunt should have asked questions much sooner, but they can do the right thing from now on.

I think we need a Public Enquiry now. Covering GIDS, Mermaids, Gendered Intelligence, Stonewall, the NHS, the police and the Civil Service.

Stonewall's website is well worth a look in terms of 'follow the money' and 'follow the awards'.

(I really hate saying that - they used to be an honourable and ethical organisation with some great people there )

And I'm hoping MPs like Maria Miller and Penny Mordaunt have the sense now to work out that they've both been utterly played. By the Civil Service and the lobby groups.

Yes Miller and Mordaunt should have asked questions much sooner, but they can do the right thing from now on.

I think we need a Public Enquiry now. Covering GIDS, Mermaids, Gendered Intelligence, Stonewall, the NHS, the police and the Civil Service.

• Press For Change www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3375587-Press-for-Change

+TELI
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374926-What-influence-does-TELI-have-on-government-public-services-and-charities-policies-Co-founders-include-Jess-Bradley-Tara-Hewitt-and-Michelle-Hudson

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3385533-Prominant-campaigning-role-of-Tara-Hewitt-NHS-TELI-Social-work-universities-etc

History of transactivist lobbying:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3463920-Lets-go-back-to-2007

• BBC www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3296433-BBC-Bias-Collecting-Examples-here

TimeLady what was that very old comedy series, was it ‘yes,minister’. I suspect that’s been the state of play for a long while and somebody did try to warn us in a not so subtle fashion.

That public enquiry cannot come soon enough. Do we all get to contribute with all the ignored warning letters we sent to people?

I think we have been holding the public enquiry here.

Ha. I'd love the Mumsnet Public Enquiry into all this self-ID crap.

It would be very sweary.

I would subpoena Haddock for a start.

She really wants to make sure someone else ends up holding this particularly ill-favoured baby.

It's worth reading this account of a meeting with her only two months ago, where she stood by everything.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3483804-My-Meeting-with-Maria-Miller-MP

She really wants to make sure someone else ends up holding this particularly ill-favoured baby.

However STARTED this needs to be found and made to own.

Maria is a lot things and she needs to take responsibility for her behaviour and resign, but she’s by no means where the buck stops.

The sisterhood is for all women, even the ones we fucking hate.

The MEN responsible need to be found and dealt with. The plan to dismantle safeguarding for women and children was made by predatory men.

However STARTED this needs to be found and made to own

Whoever STARTED this needs to be found and made to own it.

Whoever STARTED this needs to be found and made to own it.

& those who have played such key roles in continuing it.

OP TheHarpySings Thu 18-Oct-18 wrote:
"Hi all

First off, I’m a regular poster, have been here for years under various usernames, it I’m posting here on a name change as I don’t want this traced to me.

On 8th September there was a conference held in London a Bloomsbury Baptist Church which was called We’re Still Here, which featured a variety of panels and workshops and was attended by many prominent people in the pro-GRA reform camp.

I decided to attend to find out what was being said as it was clear that they did not want anyone to attend that wasn’t a TRA or an ally.

What follows are my notes from the day. But first a few notes on attendance:

There were probably 80-100 people in attendance. Overwhelmingly white. Mainly older transwomen. A couple of transmen. Some Mermaids delegates. Some fellow travellers/ allies. And me.

Okay. So here’s my notes (continues)

4. Equalities Act

So… there was a kind of informal meeting during lunchtime about The Equalities Act which was being run by everyone’s favourite advocate for extreme porn, Jane Fae. Edward Lord turned up, straight from a meeting with the City of London Corp. PlEASE NOTE THAT FAE AND LORD DID NOT WANT THIS SECTION TWEETED.

Edward Lord. He was dressed like Tweedledum. Or, if I’m feeling generous, a Mario Brother that doesn’t get invited to Xmas dinner anymore.

Mr Lord was very bumfaced about the Andrew Gilligan article about him in July and said that opposition to the GRA consultation just wanted to “cause mayhem.” He directly mentioned the Man Friday Hampstead Pond stuff.

Apparently “there have been no incidents of men turning up to the women’s pond but Man Friday turned up to the men’s pond and demanded admission- by force if necessary.”

As of 8/9/18, 15.5k people had completed the attitudes survey.

Lord said that TW were entitled to the protected characteristic “Woman”- he said the Gov dept on woman and equalities has confirmed this. Apparently the brave and stunning vexatious litigator Giuliana Kendall has something to do with this being confirmed.

Edward Lord is worried about the 125 elected members of the London assembly or whatever the fuck Londoners have governing the city. Not all of them are onside. He is worried that all of this is going to be discussed at committee and that “terfs are going to protest”.

Jane Fae said that JF has been in contact w/ YHA and GirlGuiding. Fae is of the opinion that the law doesn’t distinguish gender and sex. They are not defined and parliament will not define them.

The TRAs are fully prepared to take local councils to court of they try to invoke EA2010 for reasons of sex. JF was nodding at Giuliana when JF said this.

James Morton (Scottish Trans Alliance) said to be “strategic about test cases to ensure strong case law”.

Edward Lord agreed. He also said that the City of London Corp city solicitor and the Chief Exec are “strong allies”.

Regards the consultation doc put out by the City of London Corp… Lord implied that they were going to go through the answers and cherry pick the the qualitative snapshots.

One of the Mermaids mums in attendance said the “banner of concerned mothers of vulnerable children shouldn’t be captured by bigots”. Lord is meeting officers about how data is presented and is “conscious of that line of argument”

Jane Fae said the GC side are spreading a myth of predatory males- which doesn’t happen (!!! Lolz Karen White). And also spreading the myth that that TW are paedophiles (Loz Karen White x2).

Then (and Fae didn’t want this tweeted) apparently, there ARE terrible people exploiting The Equalities Act. And they are…

Man Friday
We Need To Talk
Fair Play for Women

According to Fae, all of the above have broken laws and engaged in upskirting and crotch shots of TW. Fae talked about debating Amy Desir of Man Friday about refuges. Amy talked about how female socialisation essentially stops us from refusing TW in our spaces.

JF then asked people not to tweet this next bit because it is libellous: Amy Desir took her husband into the Next changing rooms to commit voyeurism.
Fae (shouting): “Who is the pervert now?!!”

JF hopes that Amy and Man Friday are prosecuted." (continues)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398737-We-re-Still-Here-Conference-8th-September-A-report-from-the-inside

As part of the public enquiry, are we going to propose a name-change to 'Inequalities Act' to more accurately reflect reality?

I'd read the Harpy Sings post before but went back & re-read it-it is amazing how much info we glean in here/on Social Media as I'm more familiar with the names/ideas now. What struck me, the last time, was the advice from STA re: how to ingratiate into e.g. local branches of Women's Aid including acting "innocent" (sounds like lifted from a Grooming Manual ). I wonder if workers, involved in these organisations, have read that this is how they are being spoken about or if recognise past manipulation (LM with "Period Poverty" written on their hand springs to mind). Really quite disturbing considering many workers are DV survivors so will have already experienced these tactics (e.g. occasional indulgences) personally.

It’s a shocker rowan what that bunch are up to. All of them
Jane fae the feminist as fae is styled no doubt by fae’s self

The lord partner to that meg John and so on

Men men men

All like spiders weaving a web

'Yes Minister' was a great series, and yes, I do think it showed how politicians can be led by the nose. The impartiality if the Civil Service is about as plausible as the impartiality of the BBC.

And I have suspicions that closet AGPs may be wielding undue influence in both.

HawayMan Snorts, Yes

This annoyed me very much in her responses:

Victim Mode TRA 1:
I'm sorry Maria, but what?...blah blah GRA... Are you giving up on us?

Victim Mode TRA 2:
It really feels like it. All that hate stirred up by The Times for nothing.

It's so infuriating. Never mind the specialised definition of "hate" and ignoring all the feminists who also fought this bullshit, that's normal for TRAs. It's the "for nothing" that fucking got to me. This idiot wrote that on the Tweet where Maria Miller backtracked on the GRA!

Orwellianmince

We are seeing those same methods used on the whole country. ‘Free sanitary products in schools’

FUCK OFF

How about clean single sex toilets?

Tackling the rampant sexism and misogyny in schools.

Ensuring equality of opportunity in practice as well as on paper.

Teaching girls about their rights in schools.

I could go on and on and this is what the government needs to tackle and virtue signalling with a few sanitary products.

We see you.

Much as I am enraged to see her try and throw Penny under the bus, I am pleased to see we have moved to the stage of arguing over who gets the blame rather than who gets the credit.

This is very true!

That needs to go on that Twitter thread!

Out of interest, do Ministers have to publish the names of their Spads, or are they secret?

Guido keeps a list

order-order.com/tag/spad/

Thank you!

a:gender is the support network for staff in government departments / agencies who have changed or need to change permanently their perceived gender, or who identify as intersex

And it replaced the Home Office Women’s group...

How do you mean, Chief? I thought HOW has been replaced by the Cross-Government Women's Network?